William White Lighterman Port Chalmers and wife Anne nee McNeill

[bellbird]

Afternoon fellow kiwis, I am trying to find the bmd for the above two folk, my great grandparents.  I have been told he arrived in NZ in 1861 but other than his death 4/8/1871 I have been unable to find anything other than a possible bankruptcy.  I have found a reference for Anne McNeill Marriage in 1861 but no info on who her husband was.  However the dates would add up.  The birth dates for them I have been given are 1841 for William and 1844 for Anne.  I have been unable to trace them in Scotland.  Their first child a daughter Agnes was born in December 1865, then William November 1867 and lastly my grandmother Lily born February 1870.  Anne predeceased William and died March 1871 and was buried in an unmarked grave in Old Port Chalmers Cemetery (shared I believe).  Any help or contact with reles would be much appreciated.  BELLBIRD

[DotBrennan]

previous thread to avoid duplication of effort:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,318281.msg1990724.html#msg1990724

[Thamesite2017]

Hi
Looking at old thread and this
just to confirm have you got the birth certs for all children, just wondering in terms of fathers occupation

the marriage ref you said for 1861, was that NZ or Scotland
Bye
Althea

[Lucy2]

the marriage ref you said for 1861, was that NZ or Scotland

From another thread   > >

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,394695.0.html

[Lucy2]

 I have found a reference for Anne McNeill Marriage in 1861 but no info on who her husband was. However the dates would add up.

1861/1125 - McNEIL - Anne ... Robert SCOTT


[Source:   NZSG Marriages CD - listed under now redundant Folio number - 0748 ]

[Thamesite2017]

Is Ann ?husband of the William we are looking for,
IF its not these or in NZ, did they arrive married?
Bye
Althea

[Lucy2]

 I am trying to find the bmd for the above two folk,

Another thread  > >

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,326545.0.html

[spades]

Hi bellbird,

Have you approached the Port Chalmers Museum? It has excellent resources which includes a photograph library and a database compiled by Ian Church: Port Chalmers Early People. It is possible to contribute to this database, a format I wish other local museums would adopt.

Regional Maritime Museum, Port Chalmers
Beach Street
Port Chalmers 9023
Phone/fax +64 3 472 8233       
Email: pcmuseum@xtra.co.nz
Website: http://www.portmuseum.org.nz/

Regards, riley

[Lucy2]

Looking at old thread and this
just to confirm have you got the birth certs for all children, just wondering in terms of fathers occupation

Bellbird

Althea makes a good point about verifying the occupation of the father.

We know from the newspaper article about the death of Ann WHITE in March 1871, that her husband was a lighterman.
But was William in this same occupation at an earlier date - i.e. back in 1865 when his first child was born ?

How do you know with certainty, that the William WHITE, Sea Captain, died August 1871, was the the same person, as William WHITE, the lighterman ??  [Unfortunately there is such limited information available on a death record from this era, that perhaps the only thing that might connect this William with Ann, is if they died at the same address ?]
 
*   What happened to the children after their mother died ?

*   Were they put into an orphanage, if so, have you found any records of same ?

Lu