Lumphanan YARWOOD c 1818 and after - Census Return lookup please?

[Colin Y]

I am looking for anything I can find to explain the birth of a Mary Debynt YARWOOD and her sister Elizabeth both born in Lumphanan in 1818/9 and just after.

We know of no other Yarwood Family in this area... and where does this word "Debynt" come from, please?

Can any kind soul help us find an explanation?

Thanks in hope

Colin

[kenjo]

Hi Colin,
Sorry, I haven't been able to find anything about your girls,
the only thing is, Yarwood seems to be an English name. The "Debynt",  is a part of Minsk, Belarus.
So I looked in the Army indexes and found nothing to do with your girls.
I was thinking their father may have been a soldier, and they were very much on the move, and named Mary after a Battle.
How did you find out that the girls were born in Aberdeen?
kenjo

[Colin Y]

Good nmorning.

Thanks for looking.

You are corerect of course its an English name but I dont know of many Yarwood soldiers save my Gt Gt GT Uncle who fought in Spain during the peninsular Wars, Corunna etc. and retired after 30 years in 1830. He came from and lived in Birmingham before and after his military service.

I found these two in the LDS. I was searching for any Yarwoods in Scotland - there are other connections with one woman from Fife who married another Yarwood and had a son born in Glasgow / Lanarkshire. I cant find out much about them either.

I think I may have to spend some money on the Origins net and with a second name like,. mine (Pentland) you can imagine that comes hard, even for an Englishman ;-)!

Is there no Scottish equivalent of FREEBMD?

If you do the same search you'll see these two girls.

Any ideas / new diwscioveries are always welcome but BELARUS!!! Surprising!

Colin

[kenjo]

Hi Colin,
I did search for them on the IGI, and I didn't see anything other than the boy born later. I'll have another look in the batch no: next.
 But  what is your family paper work, that says these girls are yours, do you have them married later and in census, that says Aberdeen?, who is their father?.
kenjo

modified.....
I went into the batch no: as well, can't find anything, at all. What exactly did you see,   Was it an about year entry. and no father.
if so then someone has submitted it, and it may only be a guess.
I can't find anything with this name later.... whats wrong with me?
kenjo

[Colin Y]

Thanks for trying!

Do an all resources search.

Look for Yarwood only and Scotland only no other limits and youll find both of them and James.

Find any more and I am interested.

I have a Mary yarwood in London 1881 census who was said to be born in Scotland and a retrired hotel keeper!

otherwise, nothing in LDS!

Colin

PS I am in Rootsweb at present, No Scots Yarwoods at all. Scots Origins offers mne 7 yarwoods for £6! Not a good deal for me!

C

[kenjo]

Hi Colin,
Firstly, I found the girls, with the general search.
Now this is very hard to sort out, and put across, so be patient.

1st, the one in the 1881 census Mary Yarwood, ( this is her married name) so she was Mary someone, from Scotland, who married a someone Yarwood. so she is not anything to do with the Lumphanan, situation.

Now the person that entered Mary Debynt Yarwood and Elizabeth Yarwood,  IS GUESSING.
What is fact, is an Elizabeth Yarwood, married a Peter Craigmile in USA, in the 1880 census peter says he is from Scotland,(he is from Limphanan)
Elizabeth was born in. New York, her father was born in NY too.
Peter Craigmile seems to have come to Illinois, with his brothers. There is a James born 5/12/1814. Limphanan, and others, all from the same family, living at Cook Illinois.
James marries a Mary someone?
She has an Adult Christening, as Mary Delight Craigmile, on 29/2/1852 in Lyonsville Church, Cook, Illinois.
but sadly we still don't know her surname.
In the 1880 census James Craigmile is at home with his children, and is married, but his wife isn't with him.
All the children say their mum was born in Scotland as is their father.
So the facts are
James Craigmile was born in Limphanan, Scot. his wife Mary Delight something, was born in scotland.
Peter Craigmile, was born in Linphanan, and his wife Elizabeth Yarwood was born in New York.
The person who put the info on about the Yarwoods in Limphanan is mistaken.

Be careful about James in Illinois, because there is another one as well. and he married a Margaret and he was born in USA..

So maybe none of this is really relavent to you after all.
Which part is your tree really.
Love to hear your view.
kenjo

[Colin Y]

Kenjo

I think you had fun sorting that?

Thanks for all your efforts.

I have come accross LDS typoos before and I did wonder.

I think the Debynt and Delight are one and the same. The mary in London who is a widow on the 1881 and mother of a son called Yarwood is possibly the same Mary m(Debynt)

I have a name Deight somewhere in my Trees.

My Trees are Yarwood first (unsurprisingly) and Pentland et al after that.

I am against a brick wall on my own branch of the Yarwood Family and am testing oyut other possible connections to see how many I can exclude. The Yarwoods in London led me to this group.

They were hatters and galss blowers. One part of the family went to Dundee and then leeds before going to New York. Another twing are in to Music and were in Glasgow at soe time where one of their children was born - I have another brach who had a son born in Glasgow so thats intriguing.

The Third went to the English Midlands and ended up in Stourbridge making crystal glasses.

They all emanaste from London and I have contact with one of the London Family whose branch never left the City, one of the Stourbridge branch who only in her generatiion left Stourbridge and I know two people in USA who arer descendants of the hatters from Leeds and New York. I had the email address ofg oboth of them and have tried to contact them without success but I have left a message on an ancestry message board which may do the trick. I also have a 3rd who claims descendancy from the same New York twig but so far no contact ergo no exchange of info.

Now there you have it.

I'll rapp the knuckles of my LDS relatives in New England. I found our Irish (Pentland) ancestors spawned a guy who ledf the 4th Mormon Cart party to go west and became a senior elder so we do have some potential influence. They (LDS) confused an abbreviation for a county name and had one persons place of birth as in one county in another county!

Again thanks

Colin

[trufflehunter]

My YARWOODS are all hatters and glassblowers (with a few musicians sprinkled about) - all descendants of Joseph YARWOOD  and Rebeckah Georgaina ROWE - with the families constantly shifting between Cheshire and London. Let me know if I can fill in any gaps. Cheers, Brian

[Colin Y]

Hi Truffelhunter,

I have your family back to Benjamin & Ann in London and on to USA.

I have an unproved suspicion that Benjamin was born in Deritend Birmingham c 1775!

Do you know Paul Y?

I know about the hatters and I know about the glassblowers but, unless you refer to Liverpool, I am not sure where Cheshire comes in to their lives? Leeds, Sheffield, Lincolnshire, New York, Southwark all yes, well known to me. I have contacts in the hatters and the glasslowers descendants i USA and in the West Midlands.

Where do you fit in?

Colin Y - originally from the West Midlands - Deritend tree but not glass blowers or hatters!