Brighton/Islington - Savage.

[Beckey]

Looking for any info on a Frederick Savage b. 1822 Surfleet,Lincoln & wife Anna Maria nee? b. ca.1826 Seymour Green Oxford.

Married possibly 1857 Kensington, 1861 ? 1871 lodge 157 Easter Rd. Brighton, with George Longhurst, Frederick was Cab proprietor.  1881? 1891 widower lodge 11 Delhi St. Islington  as Cab Dvr. with Eliza Manning & family.

Died 1896 Islington Infirmary age 74.

[Mort29]

he was an Ostler in the employ of the Moyes, hotelkeepers in Lincoln in the 1851 census

HO107; Piece: 2105; Folio: 245; Page: 4, Lincoln St Mary le Wigford, 176 High Street

Birthplace shown as Surfleet, circa 1824




A possible candidate in the 1861 census in Islington, but shown as birthplace Wisbech (not that far from Surfleet).

RG9; Piece: 148; Folio: 127; Page: 11, Islington East, 48 High Street

Frederick (circa 1823) was a Boarder at Edward Stevens Coffee shop. Occupation Coachman.

He is shown as married.

[Mort29]

what do you think about this man in the 1881 census?

RG11; Piece: 239; Folio: 82; Page: 44, Islington, 13 Dorset St

The birthplace could be a total mistake - he is the right age and occupation.

[Beckey]

Hi Mort29,

Thanks for the info. will have a look at what you suggested.

The problem is his wife, the 1857 Kensington marriage says Hannah Butcher, but the 1871 census says Anna Maria from Oxford, have not yet tried to get a cert. for him as unsure about his wife's name and can't afford to make too many mistakes in that respect.

The Horsey theme goes through from 1851 to death when shown as cab driver.
The 51/91 show Surfleet, but can't make the 71 census out re Frederick, I did have a 81 census but that was a load of rubbish so ignored it, will have to try again.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

[Mort29]

spent some time on the wife; I suspect if her Birthplace is Seymour Green, that is in the Watlington area, near Henley.

Did not really help though.

I just picked the census years where you had denoted a ? mark

[Beckey]

Thanks Mort29,

Had a look at the 1881 census, was the one I had several years ago, will have to look more closely at the uncle side.

If any one reading this happens to have a 1861 census for Islington, would like to check wife's name before proceeding.

[Mort29]

If any one reading this happens to have a 1861 census for Islington, would like to check wife's name before proceeding.

no point as she was not present. His condition was shown as 'Married' .

[Gaie]

Hi

Marriage
Entry #112, 14th February 1857, St John Notting Hill (St John the Evangelist, Ladbroke Grove), Middlesex

Frederick SAVAGE bachelor of full age, saddler, living Ladbroke Villas, father: William SAVAGE, farmer
Hannah BUTCHER spinster of full age, -, living Ladbroke Villas, father: Robert BUTCHER, labourer

Both signed the register
Witnesses: John ?Coomes, the mark of Elizabeth ?Crabb

KR
Gaie

[Mort29]

which eliminates that marriage, as that couple can be seen in 1861:-

RG9; Piece: 6; Folio: 87; Page: 9, Paddington, 4 Desborough Street
 
Frederick Savage 31 Head of Household born Oxon, Cropredy. Occupation - Saddler Journeyman
Hannah Savage 30 Wife of Head born Cambs, Littleport
Frederick Savage 1 son born Middlesex, Paddington
Anne Savage 2 Mo daughter ditto