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1911 - are there huge gaps?
« on: Wednesday 06 January 10 14:43 GMT (UK) »
I'm having no luck in trying to find two couples (and their children) in the 1911 census and was wondering whether there are any known gaps in the returns for Liverpool?

I'm looking for:

Isaac Kolinsky (b. 1877 Russia), wife, Annie (b. 1878 Russia) & dau. Sarah (b. c1900 Liverpool)

Lewis Bernstein (b. 1859 Russia) & wife, Tilly (b. 1873 Russia)

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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 14:49 GMT (UK) »
There are a large number of mistranscriptions and with the difficult surnames for which you are searching this would seem a more likely explanation

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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 14:54 GMT (UK) »
there is a Louis bernstein with wife matilda (both age 38
do you have names of children??

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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 14:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm having no luck in trying to find two couples (and their children) in the 1911 census and was wondering whether there are any known gaps in the returns for Liverpool?

I'm looking for:

Isaac Kolinsky (b. 1877 Russia), wife, Annie (b. 1878 Russia) & dau. Sarah (b. c1900 Liverpool)

Lewis Bernstein (b. 1859 Russia) & wife, Tilly (b. 1873 Russia)

Justin

There is a Sorsky family that come up when I entered Isaac 1877 +-2 with 'Annie'; it also comes up when I entered 'Sarah' with Isaac.
Worth a look?
C. Antrim/Ireland - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle, Mallin, Donnelly, McMullen,
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean, Ross, Steel
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.


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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your thoughts.

David - I quite agree about transcription errors. I have tried leaving out the surname altogether and still draw a blank.

Suz - Interesting suggestion. However, Lewis was considerably older in 1901. I don't know the names of any of their children as I do not have the 1901 return.

Solatium - Sounds promising. Could Kolinsky really have been transcribed as Sorsky? I guess anything is possible.

Justin

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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 15:27 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure, I guess it depends on how strong Isaac's accent was and what the transcriber heard. The head of the family is supposed to sign to say that everything is correct, but on one of mine it clearly states that he can not read or write and the beautifully signed named is written in the same hand as the rest of the form.
C. Antrim/Ireland - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle, Mallin, Donnelly, McMullen,
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean, Ross, Steel
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.

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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 15:32 GMT (UK) »
isnt the 1911 schedule filled in by the HouseHolder?

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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 15:41 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure, but it clearly stated that the head could not read or write, the signature of the enumerator matched the writing on the form.
C. Antrim/Ireland - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle, Mallin, Donnelly, McMullen,
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean, Ross, Steel
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.

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Re: 1911 - are there huge gaps?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 15:43 GMT (UK) »
yes, obviously if the Head was illiterate then somebody else did it; the fascinating thing about the 1911 is seeing one's ancestors handwriting, as it is the first census to preserve the actual Household schedules.