Dates of birth, please, from Cartes de Visite - Page 19

[RobinClay]

I wrote, Thursday 07 January 10 20:23 UTC (UK)
I have my grandmother's grandmother's album of some 200 Cartes de Visite, with not very many of them identified.    I have scanned front & back, and the empty pages. 

"It would be nice" to have some dates (from the fashions) and estimated ages, i.e. dates of birth - and names ! 
I'm posting the lo-res versions, so please don't bother to try to improve any of these !
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I am gathering the comments to store in a file alongside the pictures, and, when finished, it will be quite a task to analyse them all and draw deductions as to the identity of some currently unknown !

For Page 18, see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,439242.0.html
which also contains links to previous pages.

Here's Page 19, which gives a name for 19D :-

[RobinClay]

Here's 19A, a "classic" in its way !   BUT... it doesn't say WHEN the pic was taken. 

My father's mother's father's mother was Martha Hammond Thornewill nee Wright (1806-1889), one of the Wrights of Eyam, and this Carte de Visite is in her Album.  I suspect the Colonel was a relation of hers - perhaps even a first cousin or an uncle.

Mark Smith at Royal Artillery Museum was so kind as to write, Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:37 PM
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I am sorry it has taken so long for me to reply, but I have now tracked down Lt Col Frederick Wright RA.

Promotions
Gentleman Cadet, Woolwich 31st August 1803 - age 16 years and 6 months
2nd Lt 13th September 1805
1st Lt 1st June 1806
2nd Captain 22 April 1820
Captain 16 October 1832
Brevet Major 10 January 1837
Retired on Full Pay 13 August 1840
Died 13 March 1873 at Bayswater

Actions
Present at the Capture of Madeira; campaign in Spain and Portugal 1808; occupation of France 1815-1818 was part of the rearguard at Corunna.

Postings
Madeira 1807-08, Spain and Portugal 1809-09; France 1815-18

Medals
He was awarded the Military General Service Medal 1793-1814 with the one clasp – Corunna (He is not on the Waterloo Roll)

I hope you find this of interest
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[RobinClay]

Here are 19B and 19C.  I know NOTHING about either sitter !

So ANY information you might be able to offer would be very welcome.

[RobinClay]

And here is 19D, of Charles Page, as I now know from the inscription in the Album itself. 

If that is correct, of course !

[RobinClay]

I have only this evening discovered that The Colonel was actually the grandfather of the daughter-in-law of Martha, the owner of the Album !   They have the same surname, so may also be related !


N O W !!!

The Colonel (19A) was born in Feb 1787 - if he really was 16 1/2 in Aug 1803 - and it wasn't until he was 48 (!) that he was promoted to Captain, in 1832, the year his son Barrington Stafford Wright was born at Woolwich.   The son became a clergyman.

The back of pic 19A says the Colonel died on 13 March 1873, which agrees with the data from the Museum.  He would have been 86.   The inscription says "Aged 84", so that must(?) refer to his age when the pic was taken, rather than his age at death.  That would mean the pic was taken in 1871; when his son was 39 - does the man in 19B look 39 ?  Is he wearing a "dog-collar" ?


I wonder if pic 19B, the adjacent pic to of the Colonel in 19A, is that of his son ? 

Whaddya think ?   

[RobinClay]

Any estimate, please, of date (from the fashion) and estimated age, i.e. date of birth of the man in 19C ?

And, if you recognise him, his name, please !

[IgorStrav]

Hi Robin, I think 19A and 19B could well be father and son in terms of likeness.  The noses have it, in my view.

As to whether 19B could be aged 38, I think that sounds a reasonable estimate.

Hope that helps

[jim1]

19A-late 1860's
19b-early-mid 1870's
Henry Maull became Maull & Co. 1871 so not before that date.
Agree father & son.
jim

[RobinClay]

I think 19A and 19B could well be father and son in terms of likeness.  The noses have it, in my view.

That's what we thought, too.

As to whether 19B could be aged 38, I think that sounds a reasonable estimate.

... or even 39   

Thank you for your opinion.

If no-one disagrees, I think we'll assume that is the case !