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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 June 10 08:31 BST (UK) »

Thanks Beg,


Here is the thread ...... knew it twigged with me as I was one of the posters :-[

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,456495.0.html



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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 June 10 08:51 BST (UK) »
We have suspected that she was illegitimate, but that was the whole point of getting the certificate! If it has ILLEGITIMATE on it, then what's the problem? We're not idiots, we already suspected she was illegitimate. No father? Mothers surname? We know that's not normal.

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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 June 10 08:58 BST (UK) »
We have suspected that she was illegitimate, but that was the whole point of getting the certificate! If it has ILLEGITIMATE on it, then what's the problem? We're not idiots, we already suspected she was illegitimate. No father? Mothers surname? We know that's not normal.

It sounds like there was additional information on the registration that has been withheld, perhaps relating to the father.

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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 June 10 10:00 BST (UK) »
We have suspected that she was illegitimate, but that was the whole point of getting the certificate! If it has ILLEGITIMATE on it, then what's the problem? We're not idiots, we already suspected she was illegitimate. No father? Mothers surname? We know that's not normal.

It sounds like there was additional information on the registration that has been withheld, perhaps relating to the father.

Andy

The thing is, I've seen birth printouts from this era. I don't understand what could have been so sensitive as to be censored. All they have is name, date, parents, registrar, location.

And they've given me name, date, location, parents. So what else was there? Is it normal for some births to just have random extra information on them?

I know the father is not recorded, but that's no surprise. And clearly they haven't censored his information, because it says "not recorded". If it was recorded but censored then I imagine they would exclude it entirely.

It must have something to do with the father and the fact that it's illegitimate, and I suspect that all it comes down to is that it probably says ILLEGITIMATE on it.



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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 June 10 11:39 BST (UK) »
I have one from 1904 that is the same as the one on here and the letter is the same.

My cousin has the original and it has exactly the same info as the one I have

The mother was a housemaid at the time and may have become pregnant by one of the men there. I will not expand further on it for my own reasons.

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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 June 10 11:51 BST (UK) »
My cousin and I have a growing pile of these pointless letters and certificates..that are still chrged out at full price !!!
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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 June 10 22:11 BST (UK) »
Could it have anything to do with last paragraph of printout - "Name Change".

Perhaps Newbe could advise if hers had a 'name change' as well  ???
Would a person have a name change if they are adopted  ???

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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 June 10 22:22 BST (UK) »
Hi There,

No he still had the same name at birth if that helps

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Re: New Legislation Censoring 19th Century Registers?!
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 03:08 BST (UK) »
I have one from 1904 that is the same as the one on here and the letter is the same.

My cousin has the original and it has exactly the same info as the one I have

The mother was a housemaid at the time and may have become pregnant by one of the men there. I will not expand further on it for my own reasons.

Newbe
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