Offer: Derbyshire Parish records

[Derbysderek]

Hello Di........thank you for your information.....i have now got the complete family..but it is still a matter of conjecture which of the deceased children are missing...........I have found some suggestion that they could possibly be MARY HANNAH 1865.and ELIZABETH ANN 1870..both of whom are "replaced" in 1866 and 1874...a common practice in those times........I'm not saying definitively that this is the answer but the alternative is to |trawl through the BMD's for child deaths between 1860 and 1880..then again 1880 ish to 1911.......I've had a go at it..and there are an enormouse number of Rigley registered deaths under the age of 10.....
I would point out that these are registered in Basford Nottinghamshire..which used to incllude Ilkeston....

Idid attempt to answer your query about the burial place of Jane Ann Elizabeth..probably on my Derbyshire Parish recorfs thread on GenesReunited...and suggested it HAD to be ST.Mary's...........but I won't know till i see the burial records at Matlock......

I do have the St.Mary's Ilkeston PR's from 1588-1841..and the Baptisms all the way through to 1901..and the very curious thing is that none of this Rigley or lineker (linacre) family, are anywhere to be seen. Which means there is another Ilkeston Parish somewhere that I haven't yet found........or they were all non-conformists or Catholics............which on the face of it seems unlikely since there are a massive number of RIGLEYS that ARE in the St.Mary's Registers............

I'll keep in touch..

Derek.

[Di33]

Hello Derek

Thank you so much for your advice - it sometimes helps just to bounce ideas off other people.

I have managed to trace marriages for all children of William & Jane Ann Elizabeth (webster) and have traced them all on 1911 census with their spouse's so I don't think they have been replaced.

I am now attempting to find brothers and sisters of Jane Ann Elizabeth Webster as they seem to have a pattern where they have named after brothers and sisters. William had only 2 sisters Mary and Hannah but to put the cat amongst the pigeons his mother Martha remarried and went on to have more children

So far I have come up with a possible Arthur Rigley buried St Marys 18 September 1888  and another clutching at straws this time - Charles William Rigley buried St Marys 26 September 1886.

The family have lived in Ilkeston/Cotmanhay all their life and it is so frustrating that the Basford Regisration District covers such a wide area so we are unable to define BMD's in Ilkeston

I have found (on familysearch website)a baptism of Thomas Rigley baptised Cotmanhay 12 October 1879 and Martha Ann Rigley baptised Primitive Methodist Ilkeston Circuit 2 October 1867.
(Thomas was also called John Thomas and was killed in action in WW1)

Thanks again for all your help and advice.

Regards
Di

[Derbysderek]

Hello Di..your Martha Ann is interesting..if its the same girl..she lived until 1946..and supports my suggestion that we should be looking in Non-conformist registers.....and confirmation that Thomas born 1879 died in 1915...

Derek.

[Di33]

Hi Derek

Martha Ann married William Shaw in June 1886 - at St Marys Church, ilkeston

I think her death is Ilkeston -  June 1/4 1947 age 79.

So many Martha's, William's & Jane's it makes your head spin doesn't it.

Regards
Di

[MissySoo]

Thank Derek.  I'll have a look on google and see what comes up for Derby workhouse admission records.

Soo

[Indi0]

I have a very large number of Derbyshire parish Records and other records, willing to do free lookups.
Do you have the Melbourne Derbyshire  church records. I am wanting the marriage between John Waldram and Hannah Johnston. They married on 9 August 1818 in Melbourne. This appears on the IGI family search  What I want to find out is who his father is.
They have two children in Wilson, one, Thomas ch Breedon on the hill 25 oct 1818. I am hoping these are the parents. Thomas's records show John and Hannah.
If you have this record could you please help.
I am new to this and would appreciate any help.

Otherwise can you direct me where to apply for the license.
Thanks

[Derbysderek]

Hi Indi0...........I have the melbourne PR's..but they are not very helpful in answering your question..Melbourne is in Derbyshire..Breedon on the Hill a few miles away in leicestershire......with Wilson in between.....

I can confirm the marriage of John Waldram to Hannah Johnson 09.08.1818........witnesses Sarah Waldram her \mark..and Joseph calladine.........his father is not mentioned..but i suspect he came from leicesteshire rather than Derbyshire......

Thomas was born October 1818 in breedon..and sarah 09.12.1821 in Breedon.......if this is the right sarah.she married Mordecai Cook in 1848..

There is a Sarah Ann johnson born at Melbourne 21.10.1823 but not baptised until 30.07.1837..daughter of John Waldram and Ann..rather than Hannah........this particular John Waldram was a Potter by trade..

If any of this fits, let me know and i'll follow it up.

Derek.

[Indi0]

Hi Derek
I really appreciate your help in my search.
It looks like you found the right John and Hannah Waldram.
The children are in my tree but I had not heard of Sarah Ann.

In the Breedon records I traced a Hannah Johnston born in Wilson 1803 and also an  Ann born 1793 also Wilson, father not shown but could be related? The names were all shown within the period Hannah's parents were having children.

I wonder if Hannah died, and perhaps Ann was her sister.
I am interested in John Waldram the potter.
But I would be interested in your comments.
Thanks Christine

[LizTJ]

Please could you possibly check Heath and Temple Normanton churches for a burial for Rose Dannatt aged 18, she died on 12th April 1936.  Her death certificate states "of 2 Heath Road Temple Normaton" but I don't know if that is where she lived or where she worked, she died of shock after her clothes caught fire.
Thank you so much
Liz