Help, I havent a clue!!!

[gnorman]

Hi guys, i'm really stuck. I have a great uncle whose grave i'm trying to trace and ive hit a brick wall. He was born Ernest Jones, in 1885 in Oldham and soon took on his mothers maiden name as a middle name becoming Ernest Millington Jones. He married Jane Helina Woodhouse in 1915 but was listed on the certificate as Ernest Jones Millington. I cant find any information on Jane after this date but on 13th July 1951 in his home (2, No 4 Court, Hobson Street, Oldham) Ernest killed himself and is listed both in the newspaper and on his death certificate as Ernest Jones Millington. I've checked under both Ernest Millington Jones and Ernest Jones Millington and cant find a grave. Ive looked at records for all the Oldham cemeteries, ive checked hollinwood and manchester crematoriums and havent found anything. Im guessing because of the suicide that he'd be refused burial in most churchyards back in 1951 and i havent a clue where else to look. He may be buried with Jane but she isnt mentioned at all in his obituary so perhaps they had seperated. Has anyone got any ideas what i can do next???

HELP, luke

[aggiebagwash]

What a complicated story for you to unravel. What did the newspaper say was it the report of his death or just an obituary? Who registered the death and was there an inquest and more importantly where was it held?

Do you know what religion he was that may help as well? Tell us as much information as you can from your records and someone may be able to point you in the right direction.

I've had the same problem with a suicide in Manchester or Oldham (I've never found out which) and not found the grave or even the date of the death so you're one step ahead of me.

Margaret

[dotty]

Could this be a possible death for Jane--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Jane H Millington age 50 Middleton 8d 914

Dotty 

[gnorman]

Hi Margaret, yes there was an inquest, it was held in Oldham but there appears to be no record of it held in the town other than what the local paper (the Oldham Chronicle) said at the time:

'On Sunday, Mr Ernest Millington (65), of 2, No 4 Court, Hobson Street, Oldham, went on a day trip to Blackpool. Next day he was found dead. At Tuesday's inquest the Oldham Coroner (Mr. J. L Watson) Recorded a verdict of suicide by coal gas poisoning while the balance of his mind was disturbed. Mrs Elizabeth James, of Waterloo Street, told the Coroner that her brother was troubled with blood pressure, and had never seemed to recover from an injury sustained at work. When she last saw him he seemed quite all right.'

The family back then were Church of England.

Dotty, Jane was aged 30 in 1915 on the marriage certificate so i suppose it depends on that Jane Millingtons year of death, it does seem a good possiblity doesnt it. Is 8d 914 the reference for the death?

Thankyou both for youe time and effort, luke

[aggiebagwash]

Jane died in the 1st quarter 1936 so the likilhood is it is the right one? I wonder if Ernest was buried with Jane as you say. It sounds like they lived close to the Oldham/Chadderton/ Middleton border if Jane's death was registered in Middleton and that would possibly mean they could have been buried in Rochdale.

Margaret

[gnorman]

Thanks Guys, it is the right Jane H Woodhouse, ive sent for a death certificate and i can now conclude the burial isnt in oldham or middleton so maybe it is in rochdale Aggie

Thanks all, i'll keep searching

Luke