Lady Ann of Clontarf?

[Joseph L. Oliver]

Hello Whiteout:

Thanks for all your info.  I've got to take time to understand it.

At this point I've got to post the record I mentioned:  it's the baptismal record of James and Jessie Burke's first child.  Not only is his first name Francis, he also has "William" in his name.  Lady Charlemont's husband was named Francis William.

Francis Xavier William Burke, born Dec. 2, 1851 (less than 8 months after James and Jessie's April 20 1850 wedding).

So you can all understand my incredible excitement at this discovery compared to my speculations of connection to Lady Charlemont:  the passing of "Francis" across three generations in this context just screams confirmation.  Then, the inclusion of "William" absolutely dumbfounded me.  It was as if Lady Anne Caulfield was slapping me upside the head, telling me to put all doubts aside.
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James Caulfield, 1st Lord of Charlemont has a son:
William Francis Caulfield, 2nd Lord of Charlemont. 

Then John Burke and his wife have a son James Francis Burke, who brings to America the artifacts of "Lady Anne of Clontarf"

Then James Francis Burke names his first son Francis Xavier William.
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I am very interested to hear everyone's thoughts.

Joe

[Joseph L. Oliver]

Here's a better look:

[despair]

Did they name the first child after a church in Cincinnati? I think Francis Xavier is a Catholic saint(?)lots of churches and schools bear his name.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

The other thing that strikes me is the "Maria" again.From memory wasn't the entry on board the bark Falcon for a J Burke and M Burke,wich always made me a little sceptical,but perhaps it is another manifestation of Maria,whatever the significance.

Regards
Roger

[Joseph L. Oliver]

Roger:

Actually, the ship manifest listed Jessie Burke and M Burke.

And yes, Francis Xavier, John James, and Mary Hellen were all born in St. Xavier Church in Cincinnati.

The Falcon departed Liverpool and landed in Philidelphia in October 1850, which agrees with information James related in other records.

Joe

[MonicaL]

Joe, have to say, this is the first I have seen on a child called Francis    I have been worried about the gap in children, mentioned it a few times already...

Monica 

[despair]

I can't say the naming of  the first born,perhaps with some doubt over the duality of "Francis",helps to see if there is a traditional naming pattern at work.Both have a father John(?) with Jess(i)e's grandfather being a James(5th Lord Duffus-John being his illegitimate son).

Regards
Roger

[Joseph L. Oliver]

Monica:

Yes, I'm sorry I didn't point out your part in this discovery.  Your pointing out that "childless" gap years ago was a great insight.  It got me searching, but at that time the Archdiocese of Cincinnati shut down its archive while they moved it.  It only recently re-opened, and Francis Xavier's birth record was the first result of my inquiry.

Thank you!!

Joe

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