present day location of 1860/70's streets, Byker

[bykerlads]

I'd like to be able to find out the present-day ( + even 19thC ) location of Hotspur Street and Percy Street which were in St Peter's, Byker in 1850-70's.
The old maps viewable on line don't have such detail.
Percy Street seems to be in another part of Newcastle nowadays.
Am actually looking for where the Hare and Hounds pub was - There is a photo of a similarly named pub in Raby St, Byker from 1975 but don't know if it's the same one.
Thanks for any clues.
PS- despite my "nom de Rootschat", I do not live in the North East, so all help/local expertise is especially welcome.

[JustLooking]

Hotspur Street here:


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0auq/



JL

[Michael Dixon]

 bykerlads,

 As Justlooking posts Hotspur St is there today.

 When I was looking through Newcastle directories for your Bambroughs in 1860/70s, I noticed that houses/businesses in St Peter's area, where not listed as part of Newcastle. So the only Percy Street that was listed was the one in city centre. 

Be aware that several inns changed names over the years. Perhaps new innkeepers choosing new names for their inn.

I was looking yesterday in Directories of late 1880s/early 1890s and Hare & Hounds does not get a mention.


Interesting to note the connectivity of the two street names- Percy St, Hotspur St... both names of Dukes of Northumberland ?

Michael
 

[Michael Dixon]

bykerlads,

 Benjamin Carr was the 1871 census enumerator for the St Peter's area etc.

 In his discription of District 11,  ( Piece 5107, Folio 87) he lists the streets he is to cover in District 11. The first four are Percy St, Chapel St, Glasshouse St and Bottle House Row. (The Bamboroughs, Percy st, were on 5107-93-8)

Today very close to the river, are Glasshouse St and Bottlehouse St.  But no sign of Percy St, which once must have been adjacent.

Hotspur St is some distance away, and although I am no expert on the area, I think it would not be regarded as been in "St Peter's "... although some trade directories listed Hotspur St, as " St. Peter's" !


Michael

[JustLooking]

I've used Michael's ED description to pan about on the Old-Maps site and I've found an Inn located in the vicinity of Bottlehouse and Glasshouse Streets. It's just to the NW of Rowe's House on the 1899 Northumberland map and next street east of River Street.

Approx current  location is indicated here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0av5/


JL

[JustLooking]

Hmmmm - on the 1864 map it's called The Dog Inn 


JL

PS - I'd say that   Hotspur Street is more Heaton than St Peter's

[bykerlads]

Thanks Rootschatters- I think we can be fairly precise now as to where the pub + Percy street were.
Must have been a very "lively" dockside area in those days!

[bykerlads]

Just another question for N/castle experts-
On old maps there is an area just to the left of St Peter's Q. which is called Mushroom.
Any explanation for this odd name?

[JustLooking]

 

I'm not really a long term expert. I just live here - sorry. I did have ancestor/relatives in Co. Durham from 1840s but I only moved  up in 1967.

I remember the Byker Wall being built. It was pretty 

Michael might be able to throw some light on the mushrooms.


Seasons greetings 


JL