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Mary Ellen Clayton
« on: Thursday 10 February 11 15:03 GMT (UK) »
hi everyone,

I am having real difficulty in finding Mary Ellen Clayton born 1887 in bury lancashire, and her parents and siblings on the 1891 census,

Her parents names are George clayton and Margaret nee carroll on the 1911 census they are said to have been married  for 36 yrs and i have found there marriage in 1875.

on the 1901 census as 1911 George is down as being born in Lambeth london and birth year of 1856

Margaret was born in Manchester in 1857

any help would be great

thanks lou xxxx
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Re: Mary Ellen Clayton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 February 11 15:21 GMT (UK) »
is this them
1891
RG12/3135/32/18
surname down as lee not clayton
if you do not have access to ancestry then i will post the full census here
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Re: Mary Ellen Clayton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 February 11 15:27 GMT (UK) »
george was aged 48 on the 1901 census so born c1853 not 1856
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Re: Mary Ellen Clayton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 February 11 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi wozzle

Thanks for that i had noticed that census and had a look at it, could it really be them ?

lou
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Re: Mary Ellen Clayton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 February 11 15:55 GMT (UK) »
And still Lee in the 1881 census.

Where have you found the marriage for 1875?
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Mary Ellen Clayton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 February 11 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Scrub my question, the marriage is in 1874 - if you are sure from one of the children's birth certificates, that the mother's name was Carroll ......

The marriage in Q4 1874 that has both those names listed is actually
CLAYTON George to TARLETON Mary J Manchester, Ardwick, St. Matthew Manchester
(see LancsBMD)

So NOT to Margaret Carroll.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Mary Ellen Clayton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 February 11 20:55 GMT (UK) »
hi marya

thanks for your infomation, my infomation came from 1911 census, after looking for mary ellens illigit daughter, her baptism i was given from a very reliable relative whom also does family history and actually confirmed it from igi records, from there i got the 1911 census which states mary ellen clayton is living with her parents as may chadwick, as she had married by 1911 and her daughter was with her as was her other daughter through marriage.

on the census mary ellens parents were stated as george clayton and margaret married for 36 yrs, i do have this couple with children in 1901 census but cant find them before that.

the only marriage i could find was a george clayton and 2 other woman in the right time frame, i had tried lanc bmd yesterday but i got no joy, i have just tried again and bingo you are right.

so now whom is this margaret and how long have they actually been married for? if they are actually married at all
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