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Fornication and baptism
« on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Puzzled a bit by this birth,begotten in fornication,which I presume means they were not married.However I have another birth for this couple three years earlier also begotten in fornication.Weren't the church preaching hell and damnation at this time (1738).Were couples just living together this early? both children receive baptism.It's Abercorn,Scotland,a tiny place even today.

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:22 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I believe it means they were illegitimate. Lovely turn of phrase.  ;D

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:23 GMT (UK) »
It seems to have been a family trait Ruskie,fornicating ;D
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi George

On a recent thread it was stated that the Church was usually willing to baptise infants, whatever the circumstances of their birth.  Presumably those born out of wedlock were deemed to be in even greater need of 'saving'?

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Re: Fornication and baptism
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:25 GMT (UK) »
It seems to have been a family trait Ruskie,fornicating ;D

I hesitate to ask - is it a current occupation??   :) :)

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:28 GMT (UK) »
It seems to have been a family trait Ruskie,fornicating ;D

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Linda,all I am saying is even my grandfather was illigitimate so it's in the genes ;D
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:35 GMT (UK) »
And my mother was 8 months pregnant with me when she married.It would appear I come from a long line of serial fornicators ;D ;D ;D
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 March 11 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Better than serial killers!

I have read that in some areas it was common for the woman to be pregnant at the time of the marriage - possibly to prove that she could actually have children??

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