Hellloooo down the years.
I will try to contact people individually if they don't see this message.
I seem to descend from two as yet unconnected batches of Hores/Hoars/Hoares.
1. YDNA testing (male-line descent) has matched my
Hill male line in Cornwall up with the
Hore/Hoar family of St Austell, from which keweena49950 descends. This line has a paper trail going back to 1552 and possibly two generations farther back (per many on-line trees and discussions with a descendant in one of the Michigan Hoar branches). I have just posted this thread about that:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=657141 2. Traditional genealogy (relying on strong circumstantial evidence, for want of a key baptism) indicates that a maternal ancestor in that
Hill line (my grx3 grandmother, at least per the paper trail) was a
Hoare of St Enoder/Newquay. In this post, I explained how someone had mixed that Hoare line up with the St Austell Hores/Hoars in the mid-late 1700s and I gave some info about "my" line:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=581741.msg4675705#msg4675705So it looks like:
1. my paternal
Hill is actually a St Austell Hore/Hoar line from some point, which could be
- 12-24 generations back (99% likelihood of common ancestor at 24 generations, which would be before surnames so Hill and Hore would likely be surnames of two different branches)
- my gr-grfather Hill's father, who may not have been Mr Hill c1820 despite the official records
- somewhere in between, e.g. my gr-grfather Hill's grandfather (if he was), Mr Hill c1795 or earlier, really being a Hore/Hoar
2. my maternal
Hoare in the Hill line is either
- the grandmother of my Hill gr-grfather, or
- no relation at all if his father was not actually her son, the Mr Hill c1820 named on my gr-grfather's records (and was either someone in the St Austell Hore/Hoar line or a total stranger).
smudger28, I'm curious about your Thomas Hoare of Liskeard. Does he appear in 1861 as born c1801, married to Mary, or born c1803 married to Margaret? Or neither?
... one was son of John and Mary 1800, one was son of William and Mary 1803 (both baptised Hoar). Baptisms to John and Mary starting in 1792 are the first appearance of Hoar/e in Liskeard in parish records.
Anyhow, I'm interested in pursuing the DNA testing and may go for YDNA67, to refine the St Austell Hore/Hoar result, and also maybe family finder to start trying to segregate out the maternal and paternal stuff, to see whether my gr-grfather really is the product two Hore/Hoar/Hoare lines, and try to figure out how and when. But if nobody else is testing, I got nobody to sort it out against ...
