Kinvigs...

[Miss nosy]

Hi all I have been doing my family tree for a couple of months now and my 3rd great grandma was called Margaret kinrig/kinvig can't read the writing properly she married a William radcliffe he was born around 1817 in arbory Isle of man...do you have any extra info it would be much appreciated. Thanx Andrea...

[KGarrad]

Could this be her burial?

11th August 1847
Arbory, Isle of Man
Margaret Raddcliffe or Kinvig, age 90

[forthefamily]

Hi all I have been doing my family tree for a couple of months now and my 3rd great grandma was called Margaret kinrig/kinvig can't read the writing properly she married a William radcliffe he was born around 1817 in arbory Isle of man...do you have any extra info it would be much appreciated. Thanx Andrea...

Yes she is in the family tree that I have worked on for some time now. She is my husband's 1st cousin 4x's removed 

I have a family tree on Ancestry.uk called The Tate Family Tree......http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/3397183/person/6908975872/facts

Margaret married William Radcliffe on 04 Nov 1843 in Arbory.

Her parents were Thomas Kinvig and Jane Quayle. Thomas' parents were William Kinvig @ 1737 m to Margaret Juke in 1768.

I found the following Radcliffe children for Margaret and William: William abt 1844, Thomas abt 1847, Ann abt 1850, James abt 1853, John abt 1856, Jane about 1859, Margaret abt 1861, Mary abt 1863.

Then again I could be wrong but I have been researching the Kinvig lines for some time now. I can get the line back some considerable time.

mab

[potluck]

I see there are a lot of Radcliffe wills on the following site

www.mannincloud.info

I hope this helps.
Also has lots of other Manx info.

Good luck.

Jackie

[Angie22_uk]

Hi

My KINVIG tree is recorded on my fathers website www.kneen.com sadly my dad passed away in April and I will be taking over the up keep once things have settled

I don't have any other info at the moment

Angie KINVIG Moore ( nee Kneen )

[Miss nosy]

Thank you so much everybody...not been able to get online this week so I will look at all this info properly  Tomoz...thanx again everybody finally some hope I was completely stuck......

[Frances_mnb]

until 20th century 95% of Kinvigs were in Arbory or Malew with a few in Rushen (the southern parishes of the Island)
www.imuseum.im should help you on most of the parish registers  (tho the marriage reg pre 1729 for Arbory is lost)
I have on my website (www.manxnotebook.com) summarised most 18th C wills - my CD Rom has many more details of their landholding which will be required to really track the families

 - A W Moore in his Manx Names (see www,manxnotebook.com) has the earliest date for name of 1641 but there are earlier notes in various records post 1600 - I'm not 100% convinced by his derivation of the name tho

[margaret1]

Hello Jackie

John Kinvig, b @1640  m  1663  Bessie Cubbon...yes

John Kinvig b@1665 m 1685 Alice Quayle...yes

William Kinvig b @ 1685 m 1711 Catherine Costin...yes

John Kinvig b @ 1712  m  1730  Joney Corrin...yes

Then...

William Kinvig @ 1737 m to Margaret Juke in 1768
John Kinvig @ 1779 m to Jane Cubbon in 1807
Henry Kinvig  @ 1825 m to Eliza Jane Callister (2nd wife) in 1872
John Kinvig @ 1873 m to Lilian Mary O'Neill in 1898
Elsie Amiee Kinvig @ 1901 died 1949

mab

Hello mab,

It was so wonderful to find your post about the Kinvig family.

My husband's 10th great grandparents were John Kinvig and Elizabeth (Bessie) Cubbon.

John Kinvig, b 1640  m  1663  Bessie Cubbon...yes
John Kinvig b1665 m 1685 Alice Quayle...yes
William Kinvig b  1685 m 1711 Catherine Costin...yes
John Kinvig b  1712  m  1730  Joney Corrin...yes

Then...

Jane Kinvig  b 1731  m 1759 William Taylor  - Arbory
Jony Taylor b 1766  m 1788  William Crebbin - Rushen
Catharine Crebbin  b 1795  m  1821 Thomas Nelson  -- Rushen
Catharine Nelson b 1826  m  1853  John Coole -  Malew
Jane Coole   b 1862  m 1887  Robert Joseph Cain (e) - Douglas / Braddan
Elizabeth Jane Cain (Janey) 1894  Douglas Isle of Man possible death 1918 Chestire England
Edna Cain (Williams) b 1915 Liverpool Lancs  d Abt 1973 Manchester England
Terence Arthur Williams b1939 d 2002 Manchester England.

Margaret

[forthefamily]

Hello Margaret

This is exciting after all these years.

I have all that you have listed up til "Jony Taylor b 1766  m 1788  William Crebbin - Rushen" I didn't know that Jony had married William Crebbin etc so thank you for that.

I did get the Kinvigs and Cubbons back one more level.

William Kenvigg abt 1615ish.

Father of John Kinvig that married Bessie Cubbon.

It's been so long since I looked at that part of the tree I can't remember why I decided that William was ours but I think it was because of this tree......http://www.kneen.com/Kinvig.htm

The owner of the site who was a Brian Kneen has sadly passed away. Many years ago we had a few discussions about the Kinvigs. The tree was created by his daughter and she did have some professional help in compiling it so I decided to go with that info.

Now for Bessie Cubbon I have firm research.

Elizabeth "Bessie" Cubbon was the daughter of Phinlo "Fin" Cubbon. Fin was born abt 1620 an died 09 Dec 1680. There was a will and I have a picture of it. Basically he leaves his goods to his daughter Ellin, son Thomas and his wife Christian Cubbon. Bessie is not mentioned but she had already been endowed in another manner in 1663.

Christian Cubbon nee Crosse was Bessie's mother. There was a marriage contract and a precis of the details of Bessie's endowment is on the Manx Notebook but I can't see where there is a search facility to find it.

Basically in 1663 Christian Cubbon sets up an arrangement whereby the land owned by her and her husband Fin will ultimately go to her daughter Bessy upon the death of Christian. This is how the Kinvig family came into possession of Ballagrenia (Ballagreyney) in Arbory. 

Mary Ann aka mab