Anderson in Solor, Norway

[andersondescendant]

Carlot Marius Anderson, born 3 July 1862 in Solor, Norway, at Runum Waaler (is this the "farm" name?).  Wife, Gyda Gunderson, born 3 January 1867 in Solor, Norway.  C.M. Anderson landed in Boston, Massachusetts, USA, on 9 October 1887 and settled in central Wisconsin, USA.  Their first child, Gunda Anderson, was born on 8 December, 1892, in Rerrigan, Norway.  Seeking any information (birth, baptism, wedding, land records, legal documents, etc.) to verify and validate family history.

[garstonite]

When you say Central Wisconsin ?.......there is this man ...is he related ?

Erik Anderson born Solor, Norway
married 14th august 1885 in Ettrick , Wisconsin .......parents Anders Anderson  and Kristine Olson
his wife was Oline Kristianson b Eleverun, Norway ...parents Andreas Kristianson and Olea Halvorson

did your Carlot and Gyda by any chance settle in Ettrick ??( possibly with family already there ?)

I know it is a long shot , but it was all I could find re Anderson in Solor , Norway
allan

[jorose]

If he came over in 1887 but his first daughter was b. 1892 Norway...

Actually I think she may have been Gyda's  daughter but not his. Carl... M. Anderson and Gyda Gunderson are listed as marrying in 1894 at www.familysearch.org/
His parents are given as Arne Arneson and Olive Knudsdatter , hers as Gunder Jacobson and Martha Arneson

This makes sense if he wasn't originally "Anderson" but "Arnesen", and then see this 1865 census entry:
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0426&kenr=008&bnr=0036&lnr=000
Solør district includes Våler  (Waaler?) and "Oline" being recorded in US records as "Olive" is not uncommon

Here are Gyda's parents in 1865:
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0426&kenr=008&bnr=0054&lnr=000

Baptism for Carlot Marius (ignore the plain "Carlot", Carlot Marius is slightly below him):
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8891&idx_id=8891&uid=ny&idx_side=-85

Baptism for Gyda (towards bottom of page, date is right except a year out - she was 3 Jan 1868):
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8892&idx_id=8892&uid=ny&idx_side=-8

and record for Gunda (towards bottom of page), the illegitimate daughter of Gyda, father Bernt Marius Berntsen
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3584&idx_id=3584&uid=ny&idx_side=-49

Here are Gyda and Gunda (using Gyda's parents farmname as a surname) heading to the US:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ep7/
They can be found on Ellis Island under the spelling "Ullerudemon"

She arrived 30 June and was married 14th July, so I'd imagine that there was some arrangement between her/her family and him and/or his family to send her over to marry. "Bernt Marius Berntsen" must have been out of the picture by then.

For additional info, their confirmations:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8892&idx_id=8892&uid=ny&idx_side=-159
Karlot Marius Arnesen
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6045&idx_id=6045&uid=ny&idx_side=-144
and Gyda Gundersdr (helpfully records the date of Gunda's birth, as well)
which means that we can be fairly sure this is the father of Gunda, because it has the same date:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6045&idx_id=6045&uid=ny&idx_side=-148

[janrm]

Hi and welcome to Norwegian research!

Jorose has found a lot for you, but there are more details to be found!

I think your Gunda's father Bernt Berntsen is here in 1900:

...Also reveals an uncle and grandparents!

Jan, (Mr.) Norway

[jorose]

Hi Jan,

The confirmation (last link) for what I think is Bernt Marius Berntsen father of Gunda has his parents as Bernt Halvorsen Knudsmoen and Martha Olsdatter (see the last column which I think is a reference for Gunda - her birth record also mentions Knudsmoen)

In this case he is more likely the "Marius Berntsen" at Knudsmoen farm in 1900, with widowed father Bernt Halvorsen:
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=f00426&gardpostnr=528&personpostnr=2997&merk=2997#ovre

His father and sisters are still there in 1910 - he is not.

[andersondescendant]

Wow.  Your information is AMAZING.  I need to delve into this a lot more to verify/validate this information with our family records.  But this appears to be most helpful!  I will respond to individual items as I continue my research.  THANKS!

[janrm]

In this case he is more likely the "Marius Berntsen" at Knudsmoen farm in 1900, with widowed father Bernt Halvorsen:
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=f00426&gardpostnr=528&personpostnr=2997&merk=2997#ovre

His father and sisters are still there in 1910 - he is not.

Hi Jorose!
I had a look, & you’re absolutely right! There are two Bernt Berntsen in the same area, both born 1868! Proves how easy it is to go wrong if you are a bit too fast!

The far right comment ”1 leierm. 8/12-92” at Bernt Marius confirmation proves that he’s the father.

Similar comment at Gunda’s baptism reads ”Meldt af barnemoderen, begges 1ste leiermaal” means that Gyda went the long way to the A no 1 authority in town, the Minister to ask for a baptism for her illegitimate daughter.. (tough times..!) 

When this was in place the Minister obviously turned the pages back to 1883 Boys confirmations and noted ”1 leierm. 8/12-92” …..
The next interesting bit is what happened to Bernt Marius between 1900 & 1910, did he die, emigrate, move away….?


-J-

[janrm]

Far too young:

Marius Berntsen Knutsmoen died from tæring July 15, 1904 (#34)

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8893&idx_id=8893&uid=ny&idx_side=-228

J

[jorose]

Would Gyda have needed special permission for the baptism - or was it permission to put Bernt's name on the record?

tæring = tuberculosis?