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Offline KScott24809

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Aid in finding a true Line
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:05 BST (UK) »
Hello there, my name is Keiren Scott. I have been doing a lot of research on my family recently and I have come to an issue which divides me and another member of my family over which relative's we have found are the true line. Here is the problem,

My Great Grandfather - Alexander Robert Scott, born in Northumberland on the 29th January 1889 and died in 1974 is the eldest true relative we know of.

I discovered via ancestry which I no longer have access to, that his Father was - Robert Edward Scott, and from this name I built a huge line behind it.

HOWEVER, a relative of mine did research in the 1990s and believes Alexander Robert Scott born in Northumberland 29Jan1889, is actually the son of William Scott. Can someone please use ancestry and find my true relative :( I've worked on this for ages and finding out I may be wrong was a huge huge blow to me, and truly demoralising, thank you so much.


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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:22 BST (UK) »
Who did Alexander marry?

Would it have been Mary Ann Thompson, married December qtr 1910?

Was he a coal miner, born in Backworth?
If so, then I think his parents were William & Sarah Scott.

Otherwise, and he was born in Killingworth, then I think his parents would be Robert Edward & Jane Scott.

Of course, if you were to buy either his marriage or birth certificate, his father's name would be on there!! ;D ;D

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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:36 BST (UK) »
The 1891 census has an Alexander R Scott, 2, b Backworth, Northumberland, whose parents are William and Sarah (nee Ashburn) Scott.

I don't think the tree on ancestry gives a middle name for Alexander; and anyway, a number of trees are wrong.

I can give you details of the census, but it's not looking good I'm afraid!

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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,

It doesn't seem Alexander Scott b. to Robert Edward Scott had a middle name - at least he didn't use it on any census or marriage reg -and I can only find one Alexander Robert Scott birth reg 1889 in the area who is the son of William

Maybe William and Robert Edward were related somewhere along the line?????

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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:43 BST (UK) »
Yes it is known that he didn't use the Robert middle name often, he disliked it. Also if it's any help he signed up to the Military in 1915, but I already have his short term service record so that isn't useful at all.

If anyone could use ancestry and help me with making this tree it would be absolutely great, I hope to have it finished for my Grandad's 81st Birthday, he has such a bad recollection I want to give him something decent before his mind goes completely.
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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:51 BST (UK) »
His army records confirm his wife as Mary Ann Thompson, if he had children Ellen, Robert, George and Alexander   :-\
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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:51 BST (UK) »
Who did Alexander marry?

Would it have been Mary Ann Thompson, married December qtr 1910?

Was he a coal miner, born in Backworth?
If so, then I think his parents were William & Sarah Scott.

Otherwise, and he was born in Killingworth, then I think his parents would be Robert Edward & Jane Scott.

Of course, if you were to buy either his marriage or birth certificate, his father's name would be on there!! ;D ;D

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Yes he was a Coal Miner and Married my Great Grandma Mary Thompson! Do you have any other information?
Scott, Scougall/Scougale/Scowgal/Scugall, Sharpe/Sharp, Selkirk/Selkrigg, Armstrong, Dent, Sanderson, Hugill, Thompson, Jester/Juister/Juster, Bell, Drysdale, Cason, Randall, Gascoigne, Redford, Renner, Twizell, Cooke, Jex, Malcolm, Black, Johnstone, Weetman,  Arrowsmith, Parkes, Jackson, Granger, Green, Boldock, Boot, Coverdale,  Bartholomew, Chapman, Day, Kilvington, Atkinson, Motterham, Smith, Clerk, Grey, Patterson, Henderson, Pride, Dobbie, Ainger, Willis, Ashburn, Donald, Ward, Landales

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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:56 BST (UK) »
That;s this family then!
1891 census, reference RG12, Piece 4257, Folio 124, Page 12
Bedlington, Choppington Colliery

Ashburn, Jonathan  Head  M  45  Coal Miner  b Gilcrux, Cumberland
Ashburn, Mary  Wife  F  66  b Blyth, Northumberland
Scott, William  Son-in-Law  M  25  Coal Miner  b Bedlington
Scott, Sarah  Daughter  F  23  b Bebside
Scott, Alexander R  Grandson  M  2  b Backworth

I can't find the family in 1901, but Alexander's marriage:
September qtr 1910
Scott, Alexander R
+ and on the same page +
Thompson, Mary A

Not allowed to tell you about the 1911 census (copyright) but I do know that the Alexander that married Mary was born 1889, Backworth.
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Re: Aid in finding a true Line
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 20:59 BST (UK) »
Then I was wrong and my Relative was right 8 Generations sliced at your last post... upset now haha

I hope to track the Scott side back further though, thanks for telling me.
Scott, Scougall/Scougale/Scowgal/Scugall, Sharpe/Sharp, Selkirk/Selkrigg, Armstrong, Dent, Sanderson, Hugill, Thompson, Jester/Juister/Juster, Bell, Drysdale, Cason, Randall, Gascoigne, Redford, Renner, Twizell, Cooke, Jex, Malcolm, Black, Johnstone, Weetman,  Arrowsmith, Parkes, Jackson, Granger, Green, Boldock, Boot, Coverdale,  Bartholomew, Chapman, Day, Kilvington, Atkinson, Motterham, Smith, Clerk, Grey, Patterson, Henderson, Pride, Dobbie, Ainger, Willis, Ashburn, Donald, Ward, Landales