East Fortune RNAS later RAF base WW1

[Jean M]

pleased to forward one portrait/photo. 

The Cap Badge should be clear enough, RAF, post 1 April 1918?
Do you have the document for his WW1 medals?

kindly advise if the attachment is OK.
more to follow
Regards

[churchtown]

Hello Jean m
Thankyou for the photo.I have the same photo exactly.Sorry no medals.One of my nephews is composing our family tree on"ancestry.co.uk" this year.This photo is on it.Family names are :-
Kirkby,Piper,Tilling. Composer is Lyndon Tilling.Originally,Say 1900 ish,Kirkby's lived around SE17;
Piper's SE17,SE14,SE 2; Tilling's SE16.
Around 30 years ago Frederick William Wallace Kirkby had his lifetime collection of photographs stolen in a house burglary,nearly all glass negatives.Recently,some of the  plates were recovered from a closed down junk shop,found by my nephew.So it will be interesting where you found  FTJ Kirkby's Photo.
A while back I saw your listing with the title "concert Party" whilst browsing.Includes a populated photo.I am trawling through 13 pages to find it.I have a suggestion of a likely location in SE 17.
Cheers

[Jean M]

thank you for your reply.  I had contributed the photo of  the 'Concert Party' but not sure
if your nephew had added it to the Family Tree on Ancestry.

So far the location of the church/institute remains mystery but Alice (Piper) Kirkby
is standing at the far left, back row (wearing a Summer dress, not in a fancy costume).

Delighted to be in touch, I believe we may have met many years ago?
regards

[churchtown]

Hello Jean m
This is my second reply as ,for some reason,I lost it all.
Here we go. Gee whiz,Alice Piper was my mother,married to FTJK.It is 1920 ish.The location of the Concert Party was,and still is,"Crossways" in The New Kent Road.SE17The Pastor was Mr.Pardue(or a very similar sounding name(from my memory of 1930)..
Areas of interest may be Deacon St,Sayer St,Lion St,St Matthews Church (ftjk's father was verger for 50 years) and the church was demolished about 10 years ago,all SE 17. The only Jean I have met was the daughter of Louise Piper (Lou).Another area of interest may be Bostal Lane ,Abbey Wood.Other names may be Newton,Ellen Lawrence(nee Piper).
Cheers

[Jean M]

The history of 'Crossways' in New Kent Road adds so much to the story and I
forward a copy of the photo to view. Alice, your Mother is third from left.
All the locations are well known to me.

On this server personal/private messages can be forwarded, duly protected.
Happy to include some of my 'ancient history'' as background.

regards
Jean M

[Jean M]

Good morning

Pleased to forward extra background from WW1 web pages which includes a collection of high quality photographs and maps. 

National Archives, Kew

WW1 British Medals Roll
ADM 171/107 (Admiralty)
Copy of this document had been contributed to
TILLING (Lyndon's) on Ancestry.co.uk

Roll No 364
KIRKBY, F. T. J. RN Official Service No 43570
His number of transfer to RAF would have been 243570 (RAF record in AIR79)
at Kew but not on line so far.

The record shows recruitment at Crystal Palace Depot an initial training centre
for RNAS ratings.

RNAS Tregantle, Cornwall was an aircraft storage depot, also used
for training Aircraft Mechanics.
President 11 was administrative and pay base for RNAS ratings.

Tregantle Fort  (Lord Palmerston) built as coastal defence  during
hostilities with Napoleon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tregantle_Fort

East Fortune  - WW1 and WW2 records
http://www.nms.ac.uk/our_museums/museum_of_flight/history_of_east_fortune.aspx

regards

[churchtown]

Hello Jean M
Thank you for this information.  I have attached a photo of my father and scanned the back of it to show his father's very distinctive handwriting and signature if you have it on any of your photo's?
Could you clarify what you meant about personal/private messages? Did you mean it is better to write more on the 'My Messages' section above?
Regards Churchtown

[Jean M]

Good morning,

Many thanks for the portrait of Frederick T. J.
Such high quality of image from a glass negative is excellent.
Given there was a huge photo collection,
I wonder if Frederick W. W. had owned a plate camera|
More to follow
cheers

[churchtown]

Hello Jean m
Yes,FWWKirkby used a plate camera,a quarter plate and a half plate and he did all his developing and printing himself.
Cheers,