O'Malley or Malley

[soliver]

I wonder if anyone could please help me on this. I am trying to find the full names of the parents of Marion Kathleen (Kate)O'Malley.She was born in approx. 1845 in the manor house in Cong, Castlebar, Co.Mayo.She had a sister Emily Frances Malley (she dropped the "O", as did Marion on her marriage record)(aka Daisy) who was born on Jan.1st. 1844, I believe also in Cong.  Also an Aunt name Catherine Malley

Her father's name was believed to be Charles O'Malley and he owned a bank there.During the famine he used his money to pay his customers so that they could buy food, but then he had to sell the manor house and they moved to England, London
 believe.It was sold to the Guinness family. In 1866 Marion married an Edward Sands and they went to live in Maidstone, Kent where they raised their sons and one daughter named Emily Elizabeth Sands. The boys named (1) George Spencer Sands, born abt. 1867 in Linton, Kent and who died in 1890. (2)Harold Percy Sands. Born Feb. 10th 1873 in Linton,Kent. (3)Edgar Hugh Sands. Born 10th Feb. 1874 in Linton, Kent. (4)Charles(Charlie Edward)Sands, Born abt.1870 in Linton, Kent. (5)Holton Evans Sands. Born abt.1875 in Linton, Kent. They became journalists in Canada. Marion died in Los Angeles, California on January 30th 1919.On the Death Cert. it gave her father as C.O'Malley and no mother's name.We would really appreciate any information on Marion's parent's names.

[heywood]

Hello,
Firstly if you don't already have Edward Sands marriage certificate you need to get it to confirm the father's name.

Camberwell 1866 1d 929 sept quarter

Best wishes
Heywood

Added:published trees have him as Charles and mother Frances

[heywood]

What searching have you already done?

1866: Edward Sands and Marion Malley marry

1871: Marion born Dublin and Emily born London.

1881: both women born Castlebar

1891: both born Ireland

1901: Emily and Aunt Catherine both born Ireland

I can't see Catherine before 1901 and Emily and Marian before 1871 (apart from marriage).

Who witnessed the marriage?

You mention Cong and Castlebar. Where is the evidence for the Cong residence?

There are several Charles Malley entries in Griffiths Valuation (abt 1850s) .

[soliver]

What searching have you already done?

1866: Edward Sands and Marion Malley marry - got this from family bible

1871: Marion born Dublin and Emily born London. - haven't seen this

1881: both women born Castlebar - seen this

1891: both born Ireland - seen this

1901: Emily and Aunt Catherine both born Ireland - seen this

I can't see Catherine before 1901 and Emily and Marian before 1871 (apart from marriage). Catherine doesn't state marital status in 1901 so don't know if she is widow or spinster, haven't found her before the 1901 census either
Who witnessed the marriage? - this i don't know but will see if i can find
You mention Cong and Castlebar. Where is the evidence for the Cong residence? - this info comes from family lore and the family bible (which starts with marian and edwards marriage)

there is a story about the o'malley/malley family owing a bank - losing it because the father helped during the famine, then going to england and the family estate being sold to the guinesse(?) family but that's just rumor. 

There are several Charles Malley entries in Griffiths Valuation (abt 1850s) .

[heywood]

Catherine is single in 1901 as is Emily.
Her will - 1923 also states 'spinster'.

[soliver]

thank you - i have added this note to my info

[heywood]

I have tried searching but don't know what you have already covered and what information you have.

As I said earlier, the marriage certificate will give Marian's father's name and occupation.
The wills of Catherine and Emily may help with some background information but then also may not - do you have copies of those?

[soliver]

unfortunately i can't afford to look at those yet maybe one day - most of the work i've found is from free sources - and i live in canada so i can't go and look them up

thank you for all your help

[AK101]

Hi, researching Charles O Malley of Cloonane, Mayo and his brother J B O' Malley ran the National Bank in Castlebar.  Remembered this post. Have you joined the o'malley dna project? A