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Tamar Clapperton
« on: Saturday 18 February 12 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

Need a little help. ;D   Looking for a Tamar (Thamar) Clapperton b: anywhere from 1811 to 1816 in Brough By Sands, Cumberland. Her parents  are
Robert Clapperton 1780 - 1866 and Jane Pears 1784- 1861. The name Tamar comes from Jane Pears's mother Tamar Thornthwaite  1753 - 1854. I believe I have her christening in Aug 1817(source FamilySearch.org).

I have found a Tamar in the 1841 census with a daughter Jane in Carlisle. (this would seem to indicate that her maiden name was not Clapperton or  Jane was a child out of wedlock.
Looking for Tamar's birth or marriage (maybe a Lowther Lawson m: 1833, but then her name in 1841 census would have been Tamar Lawson) or for her death.
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 February 12 16:24 GMT (UK) »
(maybe a Lowther Lawson m: 1833)

Why do you mention him?  Did Jane name him as her father?

He (and his brothers) appear to have stayed single.
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 February 12 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
There is a marriage in Gretna Green between a Jane Clapperton and Lowther Lawson in 27 Nov 1833 and as Jane seems to be very common name in this family it was an outside chance that Tamar could have had a middle name of Jane and used that at Gretna. However it now seems that Lawson married Tamar's sister Jane b 1811 so that marriage is not the one I need.
Research shows the name Tamar is from a Hebrew background so maybe the marriage might be recorded in a parish records rather than a church.
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 February 12 16:47 GMT (UK) »
I doubt Tamar married before 1841, but what became of her after 1841 is a mystery. ???
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 February 12 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the information which you have and the evidence of the census, I imagine that the Tamar in Carlisle in 1841 is yours, unmarried, with daughter, Jane.

It looks as if daughter Jane is a servant in 1851, with no sign of her mother. It is possible that Tamar married between 1841/51 though at the moment, I can see no record leaping out at me.

I shall keep looking.

Jen :)
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 February 12 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Around this time there were  Clappertons who went to Canada, South Africa and maybe even Australia.  I may have to cast a wider net for them but I just don't see a single mother and child making the trip back then.
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 February 12 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi GenJen,
I had found the 1851 census but nothing after that.  Mother and daughter seems to have vanished  :o   Mother indeed may have married but no record is there for it.
I did find a Lamar Brown (name corrected to Tamar Brown, but the children's ages do not seem to match the ones I am looking for. I have "trawled" the name Tamara in births/marriages and deaths but nothing "jumps" out.  Family Search and FindMyPast offer nothing as well (alien abduction??)
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 February 12 19:32 GMT (UK) »
I went through all the original images for Burgh by Sands in 1851, in case she had gone back to where her parents were. Then I thought that if her daughter was in Orton, maybe she was there too, so I trawled through all of those pages as well.

I think that checking every original image for Carlisle might be too daunting!

I've looked for Tamar, Thamar, Tamer, Tammer and various other possible spellings and I've checked Scottish records in case she nipped across the border.

But absolutely no joy whatsoever. Maybe she did emigrate and maybe the Jane in 1851 isn't her daughter?

Sorry, I'm not being much help here. :(
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NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
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Re: Tamar Clapperton
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 February 12 19:37 GMT (UK) »
maybe the Jane in 1851 isn't her daughter?

That means there ought to be two of them (both aged 4 or 5, probably both in Burgh) to be seen in 1841 but there's only one.  :-\
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