John William Barnes

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I think I have found George Barnes and family on the 1911 Census.

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St James Norland, Kensington 17th April 1927

Archibald Henry Edward Hunt aged 18 bachelor of 14 NORLAND Road a Grocers Assistant:  Father: Archibald Ormand Hunt - Grocer

Lillian Sybil Violet Barnes aged 18 spinster of 20 NORLAND ROAD, no occupation. Father: George Barnes - Motor Driver

Both signed register
Witnesses: W G Barnes & ? H Barnes

Claire

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This is really useful. Thank you very much.

Would you say it is likely that John William Barnes did not have father listed merely because they were not yet married? Because they couldn't actually get married until they were 18?

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It's very difficult to say really.

All I can suggest is looking for any living descendants of Lillian - she had one son that I can see, possibly other children. They may know more,  it might be possible to find them via Anc** - if someone has researched the family.

Did she raise John William or was he raised by the man named as his guardian ?

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Lillian S V Hunt died Dec. Qtr. 1973 Hemel Hempstead, Herts.
DOB: 18 Feb. 1909

Claire

EDIT: I don't think the marriage lasted I can see Lillian S V Hunt alone in 1946 onwards at 107 Princes Avenue Wembley and a son Leonard A G Hunt, who passed away in the 1990's.

Just seen your edit. If this is all correct then is could this be the reason John William Barnes listed a guardian on his marriage certificate?

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It's very difficult to say really.

All I can suggest is looking for any living descendants of Lillian - she had one son that I can see, possibly other children. They may know more,  it might be possible to find them via Anc** - if someone has researched the family.

Did she raise John William or was he raised by the man named as his guardian ?

I registered today on Anc**. I'm on other websites too which do 'Matching' so might find something.

It is a great start to be more confident I've got the correct Lillian though! Thank you.

[..claire..]

Your welcome - there are four trees (private) on Anc* researching Archibald Henry Hunt so there is a start for you

claire

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George BARNES married Emily Sarah GARLAND 08 Dec 1895 Islington

Does your source list parents? I can't find it. I can order PDF off the GRO if needed?

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Here you go

St Mary Islington 8 Dec 1895

George Barnes 25 bachelor Greengrocer of 46 Dame Street. Father: George Barnes - Greengrocer

Emily Sarah Garland 23 spinster, no occupation and of same address. Father: Richard Garland - Stonemason

Both signed register
Witnesses :  ? Messifield and Walter Baker

Claire