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John burns Help Please
« on: Friday 24 August 12 23:55 BST (UK) »
Hello to all you good people in America

im trying to find a man named John burn/s born in Ireland about 1855 who was on the 1881 England Census with his wife and family,he was living in Longton Stoke on Trent staffordshire.He married 1878 Stoke on trent staffordshire.
i Cannot find him after this point in time on the 1891 census ,1901 Census His wife was named Ann ryan maiden name but she continued to live in the uk with all her children and i have them on every census but john is never listed after 1881 but she is always stated as married on all not a widow.
the only reason i am looking for help in America is on one of his sons military papers in 1914 ,he states next of kin john burns America ??
His Occupation in 1881 was a Labourer in iron works.

on his marriage certificate it states he was an iron furnace man.
I know this is a real long shot .

im trying to put a link to a thread i did on the Irish forum.???

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,612168.msg4612973.html#msg4612973


many thanks for your time

julian
Campbell - Lanarkshire,Scotland
Mcdonald - Lanarkshire,Scotland
Porter      - Staffordshire,England
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Re: John burns Help Please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 August 12 17:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Julian,

Its a little like looking for a needle in a haystack, no parents names, very few clues.
Started looking to see if any of the sons made the journey to the USA but that also turned up nothing so far. However, I did notice on the 1891 UK Census - 2 nephews staying with the family.  Daniel Mahon appears on the 1910 US Census with his wife and children in Ohio.  Haven't looked for the immigration record for the family yet but it might be interesting to see if they are going to meet up with anyone in particular. Will follow them just to see if anything crops up on John Burns.

Cincinnati Ward 19, Hamilton, Ohio 1910 -


Daniel Mahon 38 Born England. Parents Ireland. Immigrated 1905. Marriage 1 for 20 years. Labourer. Railroad.
Elizabeth Mahon 34 Born England. Immigrated 1905. Had 12 children and 7 survive.
Thomas Mahon 18 Born Eng. Labourer Railway.
Arthur Mahon 16 Born Eng. Labourer. Helper Foundry.
Daniel Mahon 12 Born Eng   John Mahon 11 Born Eng
Bartley Mahon 6 Born Eng   Elizabeth Mahon 3 Born Ohio
William Mahon 10 months. Born Ohio

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLF3-ZS6

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Re: John burns Help Please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 August 12 17:39 BST (UK) »
Cincinnati Ward 19, Hamilton, Ohio 1920 - slightly mistrancribed it is Mahon on the image

Daniel Malson 48 Born Eng. Immigrated 1904. NA 1912. Car Inspector Railroad.
Elizabeth Malson 45 Born Eng. Immigrated 1905. NA 1912.
John Malson 21 Born Eng. Machinist Railroad.
Bartley Mahon 15 Born Eng
Elizabeth Mahon 12 Born Ohio.
William Mahon 11 Born Ohio.
Catherine Mahon 8 Born Ohio.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 August 12 17:42 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth widowed by 1930 Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio.

Elizabeth Mahon 55 Born England. Immigrated 1904. Widowed.
John Mahon 31 Hostler.  ??? Railroad.
Elizabeth Mahon 23 Chocolate Dipper Candy Factory.
Catherine Mahon 19 Chocolate Dipper Candy Factory.

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Re: John burns Help Please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 August 12 17:45 BST (UK) »
Daniel Mahon -Born 5 th Feb 1872 in Longton, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire, England.
and died 19 th May 1927 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co, Ohio.

Elizabeth Dean
Born 13 th May 1874 in Stoke Upon Trent, Longton,Staffordshire, England.
and died 3 rd November 943 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 August 12 17:52 BST (UK) »
Philadelphia Passenger List - Lizzie Mahon - 1874 and aged 30 years. Last residence:- Longton. Going to husband Mr Mahon. 1208 W Front & Harriet  ??? Cincinatti.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England to Philadelphia. Pennsylvania on the
Friesland, arriving 31 st October 1904
Also travelling Thomas 11 years. Arthur 9 years. Edward 2 years. Charles 3 years and John 5 years.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 August 12 18:01 BST (UK) »
Not quite what I was hoping for but on a New York Passenger List - Daniel Mahon. Born 1874 and aged 30 years. Married. Collier. Last residence:- Longton.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England to New York, arriving 11 April 1904 on the Celtic.
Going to Mother Cecelia Mahon. 1208 West Front Street Harriet St. Cincinatti. Ohio

Cecelia was the sister of Ann Ryan/Burn/s

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 August 12 18:06 BST (UK) »
Cecelia Ryan - Born  10 th August 1856 in Rugeley, Staffordshire, England and died 1 st June 1928 in Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. Ohio.

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 August 12 18:17 BST (UK) »
It looks as though the other nephew off the 1891 Census is also in Cincinatti

Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio 1930


Thomas Mahon 54 Born Eng. Married at 33 years. Immigrated 1897. NA. Car Repair. Railroad.
Margaret Mahon 19 Born Ohio. Daughter. Laundress. Laundry.
Agnes Mahon 17 Born Ohio. Daughter. Laundress. Laundry.

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