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Stumped Can anyone help!!! Trying to find my husbands Great Grandparents
« on: Saturday 22 September 12 19:37 BST (UK) »
I have just come back with my husband from visiting his Uncle George Harding.

George had told us that we need to be tracing the Lacey line not the Harding as Nicholas Lacey changed his name to Geroge John Harding.

I am in posseion of the MC for Nicholas Lacey and Alice Lavina White which is correct George has confirmed this.

Nicholas Lacey and Alice Lavina White married 01 May 1915 in Coventry.

Nicholas Lacey, 39, Batchelor, Bricklayer Corporation. 10 Butchers Row Coventry Father Thomas Lacey Blacksmith

Alice Lavina White, 35, Spinster, Domestic Servant, 10 Butchers Row, Coventry  Father - Henry William White Deceased, Door Maker

Witnesses on the MC are Nathan Floyd and somebody I cannot make out who

I have a 1911 census for Gerorge Herny Harding and Alice.

George John  Harding and Alice Lavina White had Harold Henry 1907 Bournemouth.

BC for Harold Henry Harding

17 December 1906, 96 Stewart Road. Father George John Harding, Green grocer master, Mother Alice Lavina Harding formelry White.

Info is:-

George Henry Harding Aged 59 (however i think this an error I think it should be 36) Green Groce, born Dorchester
Alice aged 30 Kitchern maid born White born in Bournemouth
Louisa aged 24, Single born Bournemouth
Frederick aged 8, born Bournemouth
Queenie aged 4, born Borunemouth
Harold Charles aged 4, born Bournemouth
Violet 2 and a half born Bournemmouth
Maragaret Smith, 25, Visitor, married, born Liverpool

My husband Uncle Geroge confirms that all the above is correct and that Nicholas Lacey is George John Harding.  When did he change his name by deepole and where to find the Laceys and Whites.

Other info Harold Henry Harding was in the RAF he was dispatch rider and cook however I have found nothing on this so maybe I should be looking for Harold Henry Lacey??  He was also a ice sales man and this has been in the telegraph years ago 1915/1916.

Many thanks (Talk about cofused go to confused.com)

No wonder I could not go up the Harding side as I was trying to.

Candis
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Re: Stumped Can anyone help!!! Trying to find my husbands Great Grandparents
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 September 12 20:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Found this death registration:

Harold Henry Harding,  SeptQ 1969,  Coventry,  9c  1695.       Date of birth:  17 December 1906


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Re: Stumped Can anyone help!!! Trying to find my husbands Great Grandparents
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 September 12 20:50 BST (UK) »
Harold Henry Harding died 1973

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Re: Stumped Can anyone help!!! Trying to find my husbands Great Grandparents
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 September 12 21:03 BST (UK) »
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George Henry Harding Aged 59 (however i think this an error I think it should be 36) Green Groce, born Dorchester
Alice aged 30 Kitchern maid born White born in Bournemouth
Louisa aged 24, Single born Bournemouth


I think you've got a bit muddled here.  It actually reads

George Henry Harding Aged 59
Alice aged 30  Wife 
Louisa aged 24  Daughter

Added
no occupation shown for Alice
Louisa is the Kitchen maid

So Harold can't be 36 with a dughter of 24!

I suspect this is a second marriage for George Henry.  It should say how long they've been married

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.....Nicholas Lacey is George John Harding.  When did he change his name by deepole


You could/can call yourself anything you like, as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes.  He would not necessarily have to have changed his name by deed poll   :)

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Re: Stumped Can anyone help!!! Trying to find my husbands Great Grandparents
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 September 12 21:11 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I think this is George John Harding in 1891 -

George John Harding 37 Fishmonger
Emily Louisa Harding 34
George Thomas Harding 14
Samuel William Harding 12
James Henry Harding 9
William Fred Harding 8
Emily Louisa Harding 6 b. Bournemouth, Hampshire
William Olden 36

2 Rye Cottages, Bournemouth RG12 Piece 904 Folio 145 Page 36

There is a marriage of George John Harding 1877, Christchurch, on the same page is an Emily Louisa Rogers Vol 2b Page 990

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Re: Stumped Can anyone help!!! Trying to find my husbands Great Grandparents
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 September 12 21:20 BST (UK) »
I am assured by Uncle George that George John Harding is Nicholad Lacey.

Nicholas Lacey did not like his name so therefore changed it to George John Harding
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 September 12 21:34 BST (UK) »
Just re-reading this.  Are you sure you've got all the right records (despite what Uncle George says)

Nicholas Lacey changed his name to George John Harding [date unknown]

BC for Harold Henry Harding
17 December 1906, 96 Stewart Road, Bournemouth
Father George John Harding, Green grocer master, Mother Alice Lavina Harding formelry White.

1911 Bournemouth

George Harding 59
Alice Harding 30
[no middle  names shown]
Harold Charles Harding  aged 4

Nicholas Lacey and Alice Lavina White married 01 May 1915 in Coventry.

Nicholas Lacey, 39, Batchelor, Bricklayer Corporation. 10 Butchers Row Coventry Father Thomas Lacey Blacksmith

Alice Lavina White, 35, Spinster, Domestic Servant, 10 Butchers Row, Coventry  Father - Henry William White Deceased, Door Maker

They just don't tie up!

I think you have to decide which information is really correct and work forwards and backwards from there.   :)

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 September 12 21:45 BST (UK) »
Oh Dam

My husbands father Peter show his father as Harold Henry Harding from Peters bc.

Uncle George is the eldest son of Harold and Jane Elizabeth, 

I ment that Harold Henry Harding is Nicholas Lacey.

I have the mc for Harold Henry Harding and Alice Lavina White

The Mc for my husband parents shows Harold Henry Harding as the father. and from electoll role information we could only find a Nicholas Lacey with an Alice Lavina White no Harding but the children were all Harding.

Sorry about the confusion now you see my headache!!

Candis
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Re: Stumped Can anyone help!!! Trying to find my husbands Great Grandparents
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 September 12 21:57 BST (UK) »
Harold Henry Harding died 1973

Candis

I'm stuck............where did you find this death?


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