Looking for John

[LFS]

Can anyone help
I'm looking for John Barker's birth and marriage - in censuses from 1881 to 1901 (living in Birkenhead) he states he was born in Ince in Staffordshire.  Unfortunately Ince does not exist and I can't find him in Hints which seems to be the nearest likely.  However, although he should have married ca 1874 I can't find a suitable marriage either (to his wife Mary Ann Archer from Alcester in Warwickshire), though a possible one turned up in 1887 in Birmingham with John Barker noted as widower - and it does seem likely this is the right couple.  However, I don't know where to go from here.  Anyone any suggestions. please?

[Bryan.]

Hi

There is an Ince in Cheshire and it is 12 miles from Birkenhead.

Bryan

[LFS]

Thanks Bryan
Yes I know there's an Ince near Birkenhead, but he's known (according to his grand-daughters, now deceased) to have come from the Birmingham area, not the North-West.  All I know is he came from the midlands and was born ca 1846.
However, thanks for the suggestion
LFS

[Keziahemm]

Hi, 

This may be your family although John Barker's is given as born c 1857.

1881  RG11/3570  Folio 16  Page 1  Municipal Borough of Birkenhead
address:  15 Acton Road, Higher Bebington, Cheshire

John Barker   Head   Mar   24   Gardener    b:  Stafford. Ince
Mary Ann Barker   wife   Mar   28                 b:  Warwickshire Alcester
Charlotte A Barker   dtr   6                          b:  Cheshire Birkenhead
William Barker   son   4                                         ditto
Mary Ann Barker   dtr   2                                       ditto
Ethell Barker  dtr   11m                                         ditto
Joseph Washington  Lodger  unm  28   Gardener   b:  Cheshire   Eastham

Hope this helps

Susan 

[Keziahemm]

1871  RG10/3196  Folio 100  page 3  Milverton  Warwickshire

Mary Ann Archer  19  unm   Servant      b: Warwickshire  Alcester

Susan 

[LFS]

Thanks to Susan and Susan for your suggestions - the trouble is, it's only John's birth I can't find - he must have met Mary Ann somewhere - perhaps I should ask someone to look through the 1871 Milverton Census entry for him - he ws also in service as a gardener and they must have met somewhere.  Thanks again.
LFS

[Keziahemm]

Hi,

Can't find him in Warwickshire in 1871.  On the 1881 census his year of birth is  1857 you say he was born c 1846, I know mistakes are made in census returns, but can you be more specific as to birth year?  There are a number of John Barker's on 1871 born in Staffs. (no "Ince" I think this is probably Hints specially as the enumerator would be local to Birkenhead and probably wouldn't know of Hints).


Susan 

[zena 5]

Hi
 Hints was very small village ,the nearest villiage  to that is Hopwas , which is about 2 mile from Tamworth, sorry i carn't help more,
 Zena

[Keziahemm]

Hi LFS

Have found birth for a John Barker  1849 June qtr. Tamworth  Vol 16  page 76.

also 1847   Lichfield (sorry forgot to note details  )

Have a look at www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk

Susan