Alice GIDDINS/GIDDINGS.

[bedfordshire boy]

Neither Freereg nor the Bedford Record Office transcript includes witnesses for the 1793 marriage. I'd check the microfilm to see if the witnesses provide any clues.

Is there any indication that they were non-conformists?

What's your interest in them? They have an Ann Larkins* 15 with them in 1841, but she looks to have been born before they married in 1833, so perhaps James was a widower. I can't see a baptism for Ann c1821-6

David

* the image is very faint, but looking at it again I'm not sure that she is Ann Larkins. It looks more like Day to me, despite what Ancestry has.

[markthespark]

Cold up here, aswell. I have just snapped the dog off the lampost, God love her !!!!!

Alithea Larkins born Biggleswade, married Job Brown 31 Jan 1836, Sutton.

Alithea, daughter of James Larkins / Ann Hayes.

Ann Hayes daughter of William/Alice Hayes.

It is a little complicated as it appears that James Larkins and Ann Hayes do not marry until 1833 BUT the info on the birth of Alithea has one entry with mother as Ann and another with mother as Ann Larkins, which would not have been the case in 1815 as they married in 1833, unless they just put Ann's surname as Larkins to avoid embarrassment. As Alithea was BAPTISED in 1815 and Ann Hayes was BAPTISED in 1800 there may well be some 'issues' that I am unaware of.

 

Mark.

[markthespark]

Okay, I've posted on Northants and Cambs.......everything crossed.

Not sure about the non conformist angle. I can find nothing re Ann BUT her sister Alithea was baptised 29 Jan 1815 in Biggleswade.

Mark.

[bedfordshire boy]

What's the evidence that Ann, mother of Alithea, was Ann Hayes? Do you have the witnesses at Alithea's 1836 marriage?

[markthespark]

No witnesses 

[bedfordshire boy]

The will of Ann Larkins who died at Biggleswade on 25 Oct 1875 was proved at Northampton on 10 Nov 1875. The executors were Henry John Peck, plumber, of Baldock and Frederick Newbery, miller, of Milton Ernest. The effects were less than £4000. It would be interesting to see who the beneficiaries were.

[markthespark]

Quickest/easiest way........Postal searches and copies dept?

Mark.

[bedfordshire boy]

The executors were Henry John Peck, plumber, of Baldock and Frederick Newbery, miller, of Milton Ernest.

Trying to see what the link is between the executors and Ann Larkins.

Who I think was Ann Day in 1841 living with the Larkins may have been Mary Ann Day who married Henry John Peck. And Frederick Newbery married Jane Day in St Pancras in 1862 where one of the witnesses was James Larkins. In 1851 Jane Day was living in Biggleswade.

Not sure what this proves!

David

Cracked it! In 1819 in Biggleswade Robert Day married Mary Hayes. Robert Day was named as the father of Jane when she married Fred Newbery. Perhaps Mary (Hayes) Day and Ann (Hayes) Larkins were sisters. But that's speculation! Unfortunately Mary was dead by 1851, but in 1841 living in Baldock she was 45 not born in Herts.

So if my speculation is correct the executors of Ann's will were the husbands of her nieces.

[markthespark]

And, if she were alive in 1851 we would have received a birthplace. Shame.......

Great work, David.

I am going to do my little 'drawing' with all this info on and proceed from there.

Hopefully, we may find something on the other boards re Giddings/Alice.

Mark.