early Wesleyan baptisms

[osprey]

well, we've found the witness is as much as I'd say for the moment, but it may be some light at the end of the tunnel.....

this is the only likely baptism I can see to the couple, no further clues on register

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=1592340

The 1841 entry for Edward with William & Ann Bawden is a possible match for this Edward, but I haven't found any signs as yet of Edward senior or his wife, Elizabeth.

 

[jmusher]

Been offline for a few days...
we are a tricky bunch to track aren't we?
I am absolutely thrilled to get anywhere at all, so finding the witness is very exciting

[osprey]

I've been having another look around for Edward. If you have a llok at his marriage record, he also witnesses the first marriage on the double page, that of Peter James & Mary Bonds. Not sure how much help that is, but it might come in handy at some stage.

I think he may have died young, this burial 27/11/1826

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11785-108294-31?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-JM6:n1315603921

and a month later, son Edward was buried

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11785-104885-26?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-JM6:n1315603921

The abode matches that given on the baptism

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=1592340

This might be his widow remarrying
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=568046

her baptism
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLV4-HDM
burial of her father
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=1481277
her mother's remarriage
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=821387
Think Christopher Richards, the witness, may be Mary's brother.

1851 census Trehunest, Quethiock HO107/1900 folio 533/534 pgs 23/24
John Harry head mar 47 lead miner b. St Ellery
Elizabeth wife 46 b. St Winger
John son 22 lead miner b. Breage
Richard son 18 lead miner b. Breage
Elizabeth Ann dau 17 engaged in mine work b. Breage
James son 12 engaged in mine work b. Breage
Mary Jane dau 8 b. Perran
Alice dau 4 b. St Just
Mary Polkinhorne mother-in-law 73 miner's wife b. Winger

So Edward's line doesn't look to go any further.

 
Suspect John's birthplace is St Hilary and Elizabeth's and her mother's Gwinear.  Birthplaces of children show how miners moved for work.

[jmusher]

Hi Osprey,
You are right, that is definitely a match for the witness of Peter James & Mary Bonds.
The other info is interesting, shame we cant follow them any further with Edwards line. If only I could find out if William had any siblings who survived to produce children. But that is hard to discover without his birth I suppose, a nice catch 22.

Going back to William again.... any further clues one year later as to what that undecipherable place of baptism listed may be?
It must mean SOMETHING... The amount that miners traveled does complicate things doesn't it?
Thanks again 

[osprey]

I don't think it's a place, more likely a person as it says "person certifying". and it looks like Sam^l Weane. Have a look at the household from 1841 I gave you for William & Ann Bawden, there's a Samuel Wearne there.

 

[jmusher]

For goodness sake! I did wonder about that whole 'person certifying' bit.... about a dozen people have tried to read that Osprey, and you work it out! I no longer have to try to work out where 'else' they were.
But.... this is the clincher isnt it? Samuel Weane appearing again means that we have them DOESN'T IT??     
THIS IS EVIDENCE!!!!

Whooop!

Don't  tell me not to get too excited....please!
 

[osprey]

just found this hopefully mistrancribed marriage

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFGQ-MV9

should be on my way to work, but this is more fun!

 

[osprey]

well, the marriage says Simon, but have a look at the first witness!


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11093-96939-62?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-VQP:n1648977724

Pretty sure that this is them at long last!

    

[jmusher]

I am crying... 
I cant believe it. So many of us have tried for so long, decades and decades.

Thankyou.
I cant believe it. I am so happy!