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« on: Thursday 09 June 05 21:56 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the death record for Jane SCOTT nee CHRISTIAN.

Jane was born in Sorbie 1817.
She married John SCOTT 1843, Penninghame, Wigtown.
They had 8 children there,

I know that Jane died between 1881 - 1891 as she was on 1881 census aged 61 a widow (44 King St)
She is not on 1891 census.

I have searched sxotlands people and can't find her anywhere. I have tried every surname variation i can think of and still can't find her.
I would love to find out her parents names and progress further with this line
Can anyone help me with this at all?
Many thanks in advance
Regards
Amanda
PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown

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Re: Death record
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 June 05 18:36 BST (UK) »
Have you tried looking for her under her maiden name - that sometimes works with Scottish Records. - Trish
Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)

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Re: Death record
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 June 05 18:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Yeah i have tried every spelling variation i can find,
I even found out when she died (1888), but nothing on Scotlands people.

Thanks for your reply
Amanda
PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown

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Re: Death record
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 June 05 15:02 BST (UK) »
Just to update, i have gone though Scotlands People (yet again) and still can't find her anywhere.
I found her husbands death record which gives her name as Jean CHRISTIE.
I hadn't tried that one, so off i went again, and still nothing. ???
She has got to be there somewhere!

Amanda
PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown


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Re: Death record
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 June 05 22:08 BST (UK) »
Did any of her children emigrate - could she have gone with them?
Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)

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Re: Death record
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 June 05 13:18 BST (UK) »
Not as far as i have made out so far.
She was living in Wigtown in 1881 census and working as dressmaker.
I thought it would be unlikely she would move to another country after living all her life in the one place. At least one of her children and his family were still in the local area too. Of course i could be wrong.

Thanks for the suggestion though
Amanda
PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown

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Re: Death record
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 June 05 13:51 BST (UK) »
No chance she slipped across the border on a visit?

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Valda
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Re: Death record
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 June 05 18:50 BST (UK) »
Yeah, i suppose anything is possible really isn't it?
Just makes the search harder if that is the case. If she died die in England, would her death still be recorded in Scotland?
I would imagine, as her family were still in the area and her husband was already buried in Wigtown, that her final resting place would have been Wigtown too.

Thanks for your reply
Amanda
PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown

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Re: Death record
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 June 05 20:03 BST (UK) »
It depends whether any of her children went south and she went to live with one of them after the death of her husband, a daughter perhaps who would look after her mother in her old age. Or may be she just went to visit one of them knowing it was unlikely with her advancing years she would see them again and the visit proved to much for her.

e.g. From FreeBMD
Deaths Dec 1888
SCOTT  Jane  80  Carlisle  10b 306   

The 1881 census shows at least three Jane Scotts of a similar age in Cumberland including one in Carlisle aged 73, so I'm not saying the death registration above is your Jane Scott - it rather depends where your Jane Scott's 8 children were around the time of her death. If she did die away from Wigton it would have been an expensive business to take the body back, depending on how far away she was when she died. If she died in England her death would be recorded in England not Scotland. The body could not be moved  back to Scotland or buried in England without the necessary death certificate obtained from the local registrar.

If her death in England is a possibility then it is whether you know where all her 8 children were likely to have been in 1888. From that information you can check whether there is a possible likely registration in England in one of the areas they lived in. There are quite a few Jane Scott deaths registered in 1888 but not that many with her advanced years.

Besides the one above for a Jane in Carlisle there are only two others for woman in their 80s, the first being to old.
Deaths Jun 1888
SCOTT  Janet  87  Shifnal  6a 400
Deaths Dec 1888
SCOTT  Jane  80  W. Derby  8b 247   
SCOTT  Jane  80  Carlisle  10b 306   

The ones is their 70s are a bit to young. So if she did die in England in 1888 and they got her age right on death, it is either in Carlisle or W. Derby (West Derby being part of Liverpool). Are either of these two places likely?
If she was buried with her husband then the cemetery or church burial register might indicate where her body came from. If she wasn't (presuming he wasn't buried in a common grave) then it would seem more likely she died further away if she isn't with him.

Regards
Valda
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