Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner

[Erato]

So, who was 'Baby' on whose birthday the photo was taken?  Did 'Baby' = Glyn and by birthday his mother just meant it was the same day of the month [the 4th] as his birth? 

[millymcb]

UPDATED RECAP:

Just to recap what I think we KNOW or can reasonably assume: to help us keep it straight!

Census info confirms Kenneth George Baker's parents as Nicholas James Baker and Florence Edith, We know they married about 1908. 

There is a marriage 1908 for these 4 names: (2 x Florence but middle names Edith and James suggest it is the right one with maiden name WILLEY )

Marriages Jun 1908  Pontypridd    11a   1047   
BAKER    Nicholas James         
Baxter    Florence             
PRICE    William         
Willey    Florence Edith         

UPDATE: Bessie Waters sister in law in census dies in 1924, had lived in Blaenavon and was daughter of late George Willey of Thornbank, Caerphilly. (NB: Thornbank is also name of house the bakers lived in in Blaenavon and Florence's sister's maiden name was Willey which almost confirms that marriage is right)

ALSO
We know that Nicholas G Baker born 4 Oct 1916 - was Nicholas Glyn Baker (from death reg) fits with birh reg Dec Qtr 1916
And we know that his mother's maiden name was Willey.
And we know that Dora E Baker's mother's maiden name was also Willey.

If we assume Kenneth's mother was Florence Edith Willey too - that links all three children and those parents at that address in Blaenavon.

(What we don't have is any baptiism or birth cert info to confirm that Florence was mother to Kenneth AND ALSO to Nicholas Glyn and Dora - but it looks likely)

LOCATION
Blaenavon is in South Wales and not too far from where the photo was probably taken (various offices around Monmouthshire and Glamorgan)

THEORY:
We THOUGHT that the photo was taken on what would have been the late Kenneth George Baker's birthday 4th March (and that he is probably "Baby") but ........he was apparently 10 months old on April 2 1911 - so that does not fit with a march birthday. The birth reg for him is June Quarter 1910


At this time Nicholas Glyn was about 1 yr 5 months old having been born 4 October 1916 (fits with inscription on photo)
Dora E is slightly older and photo fits her age of about 4  - birth reg June Q 1914

PHOTO
We don't know what is on the Tankard as we still don't have a high res photo of it
We think it is the same bear who has had most bits repaired over the years.


Is that right so far? Do we KNOW or assume anything else?

Milly



 

[Hampshire Lass]

So, who was 'Baby' on whose birthday the photo was taken?  Did 'Baby' = Glyn and by birthday his mother just meant it was the same day of the month [the 4th] as his birth?

Thats how I see it Erato 

Well done Milly, I think that sums up the facts 

[millymcb]

Not happy that Kenneth's birthday is not 4th March though as it spoils the theory somewhat

Milly

[janan]

So, who was 'Baby' on whose birthday the photo was taken?  Did 'Baby' = Glyn and by birthday his mother just meant it was the same day of the month [the 4th] as his birth?

Thats how I see it Erato 

I think that is most likely, it fits well with the way it is written.

Jan

[Treetotal]

Yes that brings us nicely up to date with what we have discovered so far and helps to keep us on track
What we need to learn is the connection...if there is one...to Bristol...and was there an emigration as was earlier suggested...as the bear belonged to Dora...is it reasonable to assume it would go to one of her Children if in fact she had any?
Carol

[hepburn]

Do we have them in the  1911?

[Treetotal]

Yes...I found it around page 17...That's how I discovered Kenneth age 10 months....and his subsequent death aged 2 years.
Carol

[Jean McGurn]

UPDATED RECAP:
PHOTO
We don't know what is on the Tankard as we still don't have a high res photo of it
We think it is the same bear who has had most bits repaired over the years.
 

I wonder why Glyn has the tankard. I would have thought a toy unless the tankard had some meaning to their father?