James & Joseph Peck

[XXXXbeer]

James & Joseph Peck were Tried at the Suffolk Quarter Sessions at Ipswich January 1820 & transported to Australia on the Earl of St Vincent for 7 years.
I am hoping to find out of their relationship(Father/son or brothers), where they were born, parents what they did wrong.
Thanks.

[jomcd967]

They appear to be brothers, both convicted together of poaching and sentenced to transportation for seven years, Joseph born circa 1795 and James about 1800.

Jo 

[Ruskie]

Welcome to rootschat XXXX.

Depending on dates and places of death and knowledge of the informant, their death certificates may give their parent's names.  Presumably they died in Australia (judging by your name  )

Jo, did you get that information from please?

[jomcd967]

Ancestry criminal records and FindMyPast newspapers 

[Dundee]

Presumably they died in Australia (judging by your name  )

Well that cheered me up 

[XXXXbeer]

James died in 1878 I believe in Liverpool, Sydney & Joseph died in 1875 in Sydney, Australia

[XXXXbeer]

James & Joseph did not record their parents name on their death certificates

[XXXXbeer]

Was a 7 years sentence a standard punishment for poaching?

 PECK    JAMES    1799    —    1799    Births & baptisms    Framsden, St Mary, Suffolk, England    

PECK    JOSEPH    1802    —    1802    Births & baptisms    Framsden, St Mary, Suffolk, England

I am wondering with the closeness of birth dates & location, could these be two that I am searching?

[jomcd967]

Possible but a newspaper article refers to them and James Peck and Joseph Peck the younger! This would imply that their father is also Joseph. Other info to note, both Joseph & James are of Harkstead and along with Thomas Garrod of Sutton they were found with cudgels in an enclosed ground belonging to William Deane Esq on the night of December 7, they also had air guns and resisted capture so vigorously that upon sentencing the "Chairman expatiated on the enormity of the offence; and remarked that poaching led to  almost all species of crime, being the highway to the gallows. He observed that the conduct of the prisoners when resisted, was marked with cruelty and revenge, and that they had even contemplated murder." Leniency was recommended due to their youth.

Jo