Hurd family

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Help
Am I going round in circles or just lost the plot
Trying to find the birth of said Kate Hurd, 1891 census says born in scarborough, living at mill yard
1901 as her living in Sheffield still listed as born in Scarborough,
1911 as her born in Bradford, I believe she was born (illegitimately) to the servant Jane Maguire and head of household John Hurd and his wife in the 1891 census was Christiana Bell, but I cannot trace her birth to confirm
Any ideas please
Thanks SC

[CaroleW]

Hi

You haven't given any details of her birthyear

[heywood]

Hi Carole,

1891 3967 /95 /36

Jane Maguire 22 yrs
Kate Maguire 4 months
Visitors in the household of John and Christiann Hurd.

Does Jane then marry/ cohabit with Thomas Hurd?

Are Thomas and John, the same person?

Heywood

[Goughy]

John Thomas Hurd married Christiana Bell in 1882 Scarborough District

Thomas Hurd marries a Jane Maguire 1909 Bradford District

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Thanks for all your replies
I believe Kate was born 1891, and John Thomas was his full name and he eventually married Jane Maguire in 1909 I believe after the death of Christiana.And its Kates birth I am trying to find to confirm parentage
Thanks SC

[heywood]

Have you found Jane in earlier censuses?

Ok- I have her now, I think, in 1881

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Hi
 the Jane I have in 1881 is at cow house bank in Helmsley, but no one can find her birth certificate neither,  all seems a bit confusing
SC

[heywood]

Yes that's who I found. It us confusing.

There is a marriage in Scarborough 1861 Thomas McGuire and Catherine Raftree are among spouses.
The couple are in 1861 census I think.

Then 1871 4841/12/17 has this family :
Thomas Maguire   40 yrs Seive maker
Catherine Maguire 38 yrs
James Maguire   11 yrs
Ruth Maguire   10 yrs
Mary Maguire   8 yrs
Thomas Maguire    6 yrs
Philip Mguire   4 yrs
Margret Mguire 2 yrs

And then the one you have  in 1881 with Thomas - Seive maker with younger children - the older ones being William and Jane  who may fit with Philip and Margaret's ages.
There are births in Helmsley for some of the children.

On her marriage to Mr Hurd, what is her father's name and occupation?

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Hi Heywood
On her marriage certificate it as her father as Thomas Maguire and her husband is down as a widower, which corresponds with him being married to Christiana first. I believe she passed away.
Regards SC