May Dorothy Collins, born in 1900

[andarah1]

I'm hoping someone can point me in a new direction. I have `May Dorothy Collins', born 17 Aug 1900 (according to her birth certificate). Her parents were listed as Lizzie Collins and Francis Yvon Eccles. She was born at Laurel Bank, Manor Road, Wallington.

Her marriage certificate lists Albert Collins as the father.

I found Francis Yvon Eccles living at that address in the voter registrations in 1899, 1900, 1901 and 1902. So, she was born in her father's home. In 1901 he was at his residence, Buckingham Palace Mansions. I think that means he must have had 2 residences.

The family story is that Albert Collins was married to Lizzie and he returned from the Boer War to find her either pregnant or with a child. It wasn't his child. Within a few years the child was placed in a foundling home and was financially supported (we think by Francis Yvon Eccles). In the 1911 census, I found a `May Steer or Collins', age 10 at the North Surrey District School about 10 km from where she was born. I think this is her. I think Steer must be the mother's maiden name???

Francis Yvon Eccles married a `Lisa Collins' in 1902 and he's listed as married in 1911, but there is no wife living with him.

I can't find the marriage of Albert Collins and Lizzie.
I can't find Albert Collins in the Boer War.
I can't find Albert or Lizzie Collins in any census.
I can't find May Dorothy Collins in 1901.
I can't find the birth of May Dorothy Collins (or possibly Steer/Eccles, but Collins is on the birth certificate).
I do have May Dorothy's marriage in the 1920s.

I have been able to trace Francis Yvon Eccles. I can't find any trace of the mother. Any ideas for me to find the mother?

Thank you!

[CaroleW]

Hi

I can't find the birth of May Dorothy Collins (or possibly Steer/Eccles, but Collins is on the birth certificate).

I have `May Dorothy Collins', born 17 Aug 1900 (according to her birth certificate).

What date was the birth registered and by whom?

How did you obtain the birth cert?

[jennifer c]

I think you need to check out a Lisa Eccles aged 35 born USA in 1911 census in Prittlewell Essex, Francis is living in nearby Southend Essex in 1912.

Jennifer

[andarah1]

I'll look at her! Thank you!

I have the birthdate on the birth certificate and we have the birth certificate because May Dorothy Collins' daughter is still living and has the original.

[jennifer c]

1901 census 26 High Street Warwick St Mary Warwickshire

Lizzie Eccles 24 boarder USA
Cyrus 6 Leytonstone Essex
Yvonne V 3 Wallington

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

Army record for Cyrus Eccles 1914 gives mothers name as next of kin Lisa Eccles address Pt.Edwins? Mayfield Sussex.

He was only in the army for a few weeks and was discharged as not likely to become an efficient soldier.

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

Cyrus reg as Cyrus Collins Mar qtr 1896 West Ham, which would coincide with born Leytonstone.

Jennifer

[keyboard86]

Hi again also check the Kathleen Eccles aged 1 b Wallington in 1901 at Manor Road, Wallington RG13/653/133/10 and in the 1911 Essex?
Keyboard86

[andarah1]

I think that Lisa Eccles in 1901 and 1911 is the Lisa Collins that married Francis Yvon Eccles in 1902. F Y Eccles even signed as the head on her 1911 census.

Cyrus Collins was born in the right place according to the census for Cyrus Eccles. There is also a birth for a May Dorothy in the same place in the spring of 1899. The location and date doesn't work for the birth certificate we have, but if he had multiple residences, they may have fudged it.

Now I can't figure out why a sister born in 1898 was given the name Eccles and May Dorothy was given the name Collins in 1899. Another sister born a year later was given the name Eccles and then they married in 1902. Why was May Dorothy different? Also, why was she placed in a foundling home when the others were not.