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Hi all
Trying to track an ancestor in East Lothian and would appreciate any help or suggestions as I'm not familiar with this area.
I'm looking for a Jane Brodie born in Garvald in 1777 or 1778. She married James Church, a farmer in Canonbie, Dumfries-shire. She's listed in the 1851 census and a marriage notice as being called Jane, but the only possible births I can find are a Jean Brodie and a Janet Brodie. Jean and Janet were both born to a Alexander Brodie and Margaret Ferme or Fram.
If it's the right couple, they married in Oldhamstocks in 1757 and then went on to have 12 children (gulp) over the next 20 years. The first 4 were born in Oldhamstocks and the rest in Garvald.
1 13/09/1758 BRODIE JOHN ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FERME M OLDHAMSTOCKS
2 17/02/1760 BRODIE MARY ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FERME F OLDHAMSTOCKS
3 12/06/1761 BRODIE ELISABETH ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FERME F OLDHAMSTOCKS
4 26/04/1763 BRODIE JANET ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FERME F OLDHAMSTOCKS
5 08/01/1765 BRODIE MARY ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FRAM F GARVALD
6 08/10/1766 BRODIE ELIZABETH ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FRAM F GARVALD
7 05/12/1768 BRODIE ISABLE ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FRAM F GARVALD
8 22/09/1770 BRODIE ALEXANDER ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FRAM F M GARVALD
9 07/01/1772 BRODIE JAMES ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FRAM M GARVALD
10 30/08/1773 BRODIE MARGARET ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FRAM F GARVALD
11 28/07/1775 BRODIE JANET ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FRAM F GARVALD
12 05/09/1777 BRODIE JEAN ALEXANDER BRODIE/MARGARET FARM F GARVALD
I've a few questions that I'd really love some help with as I don't know this part of Scotland at all and am drawing lots of blanks:
1. The Jean born in 1777 seems the most likely because of the dates but I didn't know that Jane was an abbreviation of Jean. She was listed as Jane in her marriage notices and census. Any thoughts on the Jean / Janet / Jane thing?
2. There are inconsistencies in the spelling of Ferme / Fram so it is possible that these are two different couples. Has anyone come across any Fermes or Frams anywhere else in the Oldhamstocks area?
3. Jean and Janet's baptism records state that Alexander Brodie was tenant at Bara. Can't find anything at all relating to him there. Am assuming that the family moved from Oldhamstocks to Bara sometime in 1763 and 1764.
4. The 2 baptism records I've seen also say that John Brodies elder and younger were witnesses. These could be Alexander's father and brother or eldest son. Can't find any trace of them either.
Sorry for the very long post but thanks for reading!!
Kirsty
Bell, Church, Little, Calvert - Canonbie, Langholm - Dumfries-shire; Roxburgh-shire
MacDonald - glencoe
Cochrane, Anderson - Haddingtonshire, Fife, Clacks
Brodie - East Lothian
McDonald, Hamilton, Finlay, Morn - Paisley
Smart, Robertson - Kirkcaldy & Dysar, Fife; Dundee
Chesters, Allen, Pennington - Cheshire & North Wales
Christer - Cumberland, Northumberland, Cumbria, N Lincs
Altorfer, Haller, Feller - Switzerland