Miss A E Roe Yardley Gobion School

[Peteroey]

I have been looking in to the Roe family from Oundle
They seem to have been involved with the national school as school mistresses
The names I have are Emma Kate Roe
And Ann Elizabeth Roe who went on to be head mistress at the Yardley Gobion school, retiring in 1926
Any help or information would be greatly appreciated

[CaroleW]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Can you tell us exactly what type of information you are looking for and what you already have so we don't waste time duplicating.

No birthyears or birthplaces are mentioned in your post

Births March qtr 1864   
Emma Kate Roe     Oundle    3b   207

Where and when was Elizabeth born?  The 1911 census will give you that information

1871/1881 info is free here

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1538354?collectionNameFilter=false
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2562194?collectionNameFilter=false

[Peteroey]

Sorry should have said
I have all the basic stuff from census materials
These two Roes are sisters Emma Kate born in Oundle
ELizabeth Ann born in Marylebone
They had a brother Harry Goodliffe (my great grand father) also born in Oundle - Havelock Cottages.
Their parents were Thomas Roe who died in the Northampton Lunatic Asylum and Mary Anne Honour
I believe Thomas Roe was the son of James Roe, but it's at this point I get a bit of a brick wall. THomas died in 1870, and I think is buried at St sepulchre's church in Northampton
The other Roes with the exception of Harry are possibly buried in Oundle, St Peter's?
I'm really after any corroborating information about any of these Roes. I seem to be the only person in the country researching them, as I haven't come across any others. I am hoping to visit Oundle this coming week to check grave yards. The whole family seem to have been involved in the national school in Oundle, again hoping for any corroborating info. I know this seems a little long winded but any help would be much appreciated. I have all the documents relating to the aforementioned Roes

[sugarbakers]

Have you asked Northampton Record Office if they have logbooks, accounts books, etc, for the school for the period concerned ?

Durham University Library (a pleasure to visit) holds the National Society Annual Reports, 1812-1900, on fiche, which may include further details.

The Church of England Record Centre in London may also be useful.

[Peteroey]

Thanks for the advice
Hoping to pop into Northampton record office next week, whilst visiting Oundle
I think Durham may have to wait till half term or even summer
Once again thanks for the response

[CaroleW]

Hi

I see the surname is spelt as Rowe in 1871 but I am struggling to find the marriage between Mary Anne Honour and Thomas Rowe/Roe

A copy of that marriage cert would confirm if Thomas's father was James

[CaroleW]

Found it - she is spelt as Honnor.  15.12.1860

Thomas Roe was a baker and his father was James occ labourer

One of the witnesses was Edward Roe

[CaroleW]

Ann Elizabeth Roe was born 5.10.1861 and baptised 29.12.1861 at St Mary Bryanston Sq London.
She died 17.9.1942 at the Memorial Hosp Peterborough

Administration plus will to sister Emma Kate   https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Emma Kate died 27.1.1944 - see probate entry on link above

[Peteroey]

Hi Carole
Thanks for your swift response
James was the father, and Edward was the witness according to the marriage certificate. I'm assuming that this was his  brother - which matches with my research.
There seems to have been a lot of movement between Oundle and London and back again, with some of Thomas' brothers doing well for themselves as bakers then restauranters in and around Hanover square. I have a newspaper report that states Ann Elizabeth died as a result of a fall down stairs. Can only assume she was sort of well known to make the press. There seem to be a few James roe at this point and that's were my research becomes cloudy. That's what I would like to focus on next, trying to get a little further, as well as focusing on the education connection. I assumed (wrongly) that I was the first of my family to be involved in education. But it would seem not. If my research is correct, a big if. Then there was a Sarah roe who was also a teacher, who drowned herself in a fit of temporary insanity according to the coroners report. Education reform caused problems even in the nineteenth century