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Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 11:10 GMT (UK) »
I have a mystery that i cannot solve, so any assistance would be welcome.

Enoch Goddard and his son Enoch Joseph Goddard both died on the same date 14th May 1834. This may have been the result of an accident, and i would like to know where i would search for the information of these deaths. They both lived in Nottingham at the time of death.

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 October 16 11:18 GMT (UK) »
How old was his son when he died

No death certificates in 1834 so cause of death could be difficult to prove
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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 October 16 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Enoch snr was 71 and Enoch jnr was 43. Are there any newspaper archive sites i could look at?

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 October 16 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Can you give us more info about the Goddards, eg where did they live? Where did you find the information about their deaths?

There is a burial on the Notts FHS CD for Enock Goddard age 70, of Washington St, Notts StMary, buried on 16 Nov 1834. Obviously this would not fit with a death in the previous May! - so may not be the right person. I can't see any burial for Enoch jnr. in 1834 (or indeed at any other time). There's nothing in the online BL newspaper archive about either death but I can see a death notice for the wife of Enoch snr, Hannah, in 1847.

Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 October 16 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, there is a Tree on Ancestry that has those same day death dates, the birth.of Enoch Joseph ranges from 1778 to 1790, he apparently married a Charlotte Mayfield 5th September 1813

The Hannah Goddard above in 1841 is shown as Hannah GODDERD 74 with a John/Maria Spurr and family, John Spurr married Maria Goddard 29th August 1822 Nottingham, St Mary
Census ref HO107/870/ 3/7 / 7
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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 October 16 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Thankyou all for your input. My research has come purely from Ancestry. I do believe that they are true farther and son. I guess that this mystery will never be solved if there is nothing in the newspaper archives. Im wondering if they were miners and fell victim to an accident at the pit.

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 October 16 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi OK pixipic,  who did your Enoch Joseph marry ( if at all)?
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PS Tree suggests he was a Frame Work Knitter?
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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 October 16 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Marriages at Notts St mary

1788 03 23   Enoch GODDARD   and  Hannah COATES   

1800 11 23   Enoch GODDARD   Mary   HOUGH   

1813 09 05   Enoch GODDARD   Charlotte   MAYFIELD   

Children to Enoch and Hannah (all bapt st St Mary)

1789 01 10      Frances   
1790 10 10      Enoch   
1791 12 27      Samuel   
1793 12 28      Samuel   
1795 01 29      William   
1797 02 10      Sarah   
1803 03 24      John   
1805 07 01      Henry   

NO children listed in the appropriate timescale for Enoch and Mary.

Enoch and Charlotte's daughter, and this states that Enoch was a FRAMEWORK KNITTER, abode Bellar Gate:
1814 04 12      Frances   
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Enoch Joseph Goddard and Enoch Goddard
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 October 16 19:15 GMT (UK) »
 burials (St Mary's still)

1789 04 19   Enoch   GODDARD   Nottm.St.Marys    Son of Enoch   (NB I can't see a baptism for this child)
1793 08 09   Samuel   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary   Son of Enoch   
1794 06 29   Samuel   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary   Son of Enoch   
1795 10 03   William   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary   Son of Enoch   
1798 09 09   John   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary   Son of Enoch   
1800 06 12   Sarah   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary   Wife of Enoch (which Enoch??)
1801 10 06   Sarah   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary   Dau of Enoch   
1802 04 20   Enoch   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary      
1807 09 24   Enoch   GODDARD         Nottingham St Mary      
1820 10 23   Mary   GODDARD    Bellar Ga   Nottingham St Mary   age 2 1/2yrs   (this matches the address on Frances's baptism as per post above)
1834 11 16   Enock   GODDARD   age 70   Washington St   Nottingham St Mary      

Clearly there were more than 2 Enoch Goddard in the St Mary's area -----
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)