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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #27 on: Monday 14 November 16 20:12 GMT (UK) »
I can't find births for those 2 children can you?  Supposedly born Lambeth.  I don't know who they came from  :-X

I wonder if they were under Brooks with his wife Elizabeth Mary Ann as the mother.

There is a Dorothy Lydia Brooks born Lambeth Jun 1905
but no corresponding George Albert and besides where is Elizabeth in 1901 - everyone is missing  :-\


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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #28 on: Monday 14 November 16 20:42 GMT (UK) »
More plot thickening - found a marriage 26 Dec 1896 Elizabeth Mary Ann Holbrook 21 father John blacksmith but not to Mr Brooks to Mr George Hall Butterfield - is this the same Elizabeth who marries Mr Deeley? 

And where does Brooks fit in - has she married again inbetween  :-X
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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #29 on: Monday 14 November 16 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Well George Hall Butterfield has got another "wife" by 1911 - "married" 10 years tho I don't see a marriage till 1933!

Is this the same Elizabeth Mary Ann Holbrook marrying these two men?  And how does she get the name Brooks if Butterfield was still alive. 
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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #30 on: Monday 14 November 16 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

For the note pile . . . . .

Birth 1895 Sep Islington 1b 449 George Albert Butterfield

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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #31 on: Monday 14 November 16 22:23 GMT (UK) »
It's getting to be a very big note pile!

For info William Joseph not baptised till 3 May 1881 - born 19 Jan 1875
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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #32 on: Monday 14 November 16 22:39 GMT (UK) »
William Joseph and Emily Deeley are on electoral register together in Southwark 1918 1919 1922 1924 1925 1926 1928 1929 1931 1932 1934 1935 1936

In 1937 1938 there is a Martha and an Ellen Deeley as well

1939 no Martha but a Leonard George Deeley as well

so they stayed together quite a while
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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 08:56 GMT (UK) »
My family tree on Ancestry is public, so please, if it helps, take a look.  The tree name is MARTIN.

My maternal family tree is SO complicated, to say the least !

My maternal grandmother was Emily LINES.

She had an illegitimate child named Grace in 1896

She then met John Alfred JONES (my maternal grandfather).....his birth name was MARTIN the same as his mother as he was illegitimate, but his mother changed his name to Jones when he was 10 years old (maybe his birth father was Jones, who knows).  John Alfred Jones had three daughters before meeting Emily, from a previous marriage, Daisy, Lilian and Rose.

John Alfred Jones and Emily never married (no trace of a marriage anywhere) but she took his name of Jones immediately.  They went on to have about six children together, my mother being the youngest, born in 1912.  John Alfred Jones died a year after my mum's birth, in 1913.

My grandmother then went on to marry (officially lol) William Joseph Deeley a year later, in 1914.

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Not relevant but just an "interesting" side snippet:

The extremely weird thing about all this is........my maternal grandfather's BIRTH name was John Alfred MARTIN, as Martin was his mother's and his grandparents family name.

My father's name, so my family name, was also MARTIN !!!!!!!!

So working on my family tree, I have SO many Martin on BOTH sides.  I told you it was really weird !!! 

Hope you could follow that !   ?


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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Deeley and Brooks......it feels like my brain is porridge oats !

Where are they and where are the two "children".  They all must have been escapologists !

What a mish mash !

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Re: EMILY DEELEY born 1875
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 22:32 GMT (UK) »

[ Amended 15/11/16 ]

Do you have the birth cert for Grace Lines b1896?

The reason I ask is this . . . . .

Marriages Dec 1892 St Albans 3a 875
The four people listed are
William French
Emily Lines
Ernest Edward Lines
Lilly Ethel H Lines
So if Emily married Ernest and Grace was an issue, of said couple,
 then she is not illegitimate.


Postscript
William French married Lilly Lines = can be found 1901 with 3x children in W'stead
Emily Lines married Ernest Lines = can be found 1901 with 1c child Ernest in Braintree
and,
as coincidence would have it, next door to a pub run by a couple surnamed FRENCH :o

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"The wise man knows how little he knows, the foolish man does not". My Grandfather & Father.

"You can’t give kindness away.  It keeps coming back". Mark Twain (?).