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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #36 on: Monday 14 November 16 13:20 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #37 on: Monday 14 November 16 13:24 GMT (UK) »
ahhhhhhhhhhh

John Hobart married Elizabeth Hall, St Mary;s Dublin in 1813

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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #38 on: Monday 14 November 16 14:47 GMT (UK) »
they appear to be the witnesses at the 1822 marriage they have him transcribed as James but looking at the image it appears to be Jno
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-277-3-1-024

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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #39 on: Monday 14 November 16 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Yes - that's the record that I found yesterday - Reply #16:

I've got a possible marriage for Robert (b.c. 1796) in 1822:

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-277-3-1-024

add - so Eliza, aged 91 in 1911, was the daughter of John Hobart and Elizabeth Hall and Elizabeth was probably the sister of Maria Monck Hall (transcribed as Hale).  Given that Kate was b. circa 1863, I'd think she was more likely to be her great/grand aunt  :-\
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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #40 on: Monday 14 November 16 16:57 GMT (UK) »
have you got these Forster's
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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #41 on: Monday 14 November 16 17:18 GMT (UK) »
add - so Eliza, aged 91 in 1911, was the daughter of John Hobart and Elizabeth Hall and Elizabeth was probably the sister of Maria Monck Hall (transcribed as Hale).  Given that Kate was b. circa 1863, I'd think she was more likely to be her great/grand aunt  :-\

Finally got Kate sorted- she was a good bit older than Mark Leonard and seems to have shaved a few years off her age until he died  :) So, all the other evidence that she was Robert Atkinson's daughter is correct.
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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #42 on: Monday 14 November 16 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Some more additions and corrections-

Helen Atkinson (-1897) m.(1872) Dr. Thomas Popham (c1848-1910)- another son:
Lt.-Col. Robert Lionel Popham (1874 Sligo-1957) m.(1932 Kensington, London) Violet May Coldham (d.1957)
1957 POPHAM Robert Lionel of 7 Harrington-court Harrington-road London S.W.7 died 7 April 1957 at Centre Oak Yateley Blackwater Hampshire Administratuion London 19 June to Cyril Popham retired colonel H.M. army. Effects £7149 14s 5.
1957 POPHAM Violet May of 7 Harrington-court Harrington-road London S.W.7 (wife of Robert Lionel Popham) died 28 March 1957 at 99 Cromwell-road London S.W.7 Administration London 18 July to Cyril Popham retired colonel H.M. army. Effects £96 15s 8d.

More on this son-
Harry Temple Popham (1875-1948 Worthing, Sussex, England) m.(1929) Jennie Evelyn Napier-Ford (1885?-1967?)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03062/2122413
1917 departed London, Eng. for Bombay, India- accountant, Ceylon.
Marriage: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV8M-PH4S
Death: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVC4-1KNJ
1948 POPHAM Harry Temple, of 8 Marlow-road Broadwater Worthing died 3 February 1948 Probate Lewes 19 April to Jennie Evelyn Popham widow. Effects £8316 13s 8d.

Their only daughter-
Alice Stewart Popham (1885) m.(1911) John Ashton Sheppard (1876)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02652/1977731.pdf
marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09970/5625078.pdf
Armorial families : a directory of gentlemen of coat-armour (Volume 2): John Ashton Sheppard, Gentleman, b. 1876; m. 1st, 1905, Patience (d. 1908), d. of Rev. George Benjamin Sweetman of Aghadown Rectory, co. Cork; 2nd, 1911, Alice Stewart, only d. of Thomas Popham, M.D., of Crosshaven. Postal address— c/o T. R. Popham, Hill House, Crosshaven, co. Cork. 
? 1983 SHEPPARD Alice Stewart otherwise Alice Stuart of Main Street Schull County Cork Republic of Ireland died 10 Dec 1982 Probate London 3 August £1141.

Youngest son-
Col. Cyril Popham (1890-1958 England) m. Gladys Margaret (1891/1892-1973 Dartford, Kent)- 1 son possibly alive
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02413/1899484.pdf
1928 arrived Southampton from Malta: Cyril Popham 37 British Army, Gladys Popham 35, [son] 2. U.K. address- Cork.
1957 arrived Southampton from Singapore- Cyril Popham, 13/8/90, Colonel Army; Gladys M. Popham, 25/7/91.
1958 POPHAM Cyril O.B.E. of Centre Oak Blackwater Hampshire died 9 October 1958 at Royal Hampshire Hospital Reading Probate London 28 December to Gladys Margaret Popham widow, Effects £11228 14s 8d.
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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #43 on: Monday 14 November 16 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Katharine Mary Eleanor “Kate” Atkinson (c1849 Dublin-1943 Wales) m. Mark Leonard (c1863 Wales-1941)
Marriage (1883, address 18 Synnot Place) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c630367792928
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Blackrock/Waltham_Terrace/1313657
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Blackrock_No__3/Brighton_Terrace/91299
1941 LEONARD Mark of The Homestead Murch Dinas Powis Glamorganshire died 25 June 1941 Probate Llandaff 19 September to Katharine Mary Eleanor Leonard widow. Effects £2329 14s 8d.
Death (Katherine)-  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCH-LTW7
1943 LEONARD Katharine Mary Eleanor of Cefn Murch-road Dinas Powis Glamorganshire widow died 30 January 1943 Probate Llandaff 31 July to Robert Lionel Popham retired lieutenant-colonel H.M. Army. Effects £2057 4s 8d.
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Re: Charles Atkinson circa 1828-1875
« Reply #44 on: Monday 14 November 16 17:29 GMT (UK) »

Finally got Kate sorted- she was a good bit older than Mark Leonard and seems to have shaved a few years off her age until he died  :) So, all the other evidence that she was Robert Atkinson's daughter is correct.

Thank goodness  ;D  At least trying to find her seems to confirm Robert's marriage to Maria Hall.   (Just seen you've put up details - will have a read. )

I'm having problems finding Thomas Hall Atkinson's death reg on irishgenealogy. I've got him on two other sites and the probate record - Rathdown April Q, 1919. Have either of you found it?

Thanks, dathai. I'll have a good look later as I'm away now for a while.
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