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Maria Tonks - Walsall
« on: Saturday 06 August 05 13:08 BST (UK) »
Maria Tonks was born in 1849 in Walsall. Her parents were John Tonks and Mary Ann Kettledon.
In 1861 she lived with her grandmother Maria Kettledon in Walsall.
I am looking for some information about Maria Tonks after 1861?
Christina

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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 August 05 01:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Christina,

In 1871 Maria was a domestic servant in the household of Thomas Whitehouse, wheelwright, Tantarra (can't read number), Walsall.

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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 August 05 08:17 BST (UK) »
Good morning Ros,
thank you for your information. Is it possible to have a look in 1891 and 1901? I suppose Maria Tonks has married Mr. Whitehouse.  In 1881  William Whitehouse is named as grandson of Maria Kettledon, grandmother of Maria Tonks.
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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 August 05 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Christina,

It looks like quite a complicated family and I'll have a go at setting it all out in the morning (1am here!).

In the meantime this looks like Maria's birth reg:

Maria Tonks, Walsall, Sept q. 1849 17/249.


I think Thomas Whitehouse is a relation of Maria's since they are all living in the same house in 1861 - including George Whitehouse. Perhaps Mrs Whitehouse (Emma) is Maria's sister.

Ros
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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 August 05 09:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Ros,
I have got Maria Tonks date of christening: 15.07.1849 Walsall
Does your information Sept. q. 1849 mean quarter - which includes the months July to September?
I am a beginner in english ancestry, I am an Austrian with english roots!

I am a bit confused about Emma Whitehouse, so far up to now I have never heard of a sister called Emma.
In 1861 Maria Tonks lived with her grandmother Maria Kettledon.
In 1881 William Whitehouse, born 1861 in Walsall, lived with Maria Kettledon.

At the moment I don`t know how to find the right trace.
Christina

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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 August 05 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Christina,

We keep meeting each other in the dead of night!

Yes, someone born in July would have been registered in the September quarter. Aure you have the right person there.

I'll get back to you!

Ros
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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 August 05 06:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Ros,
New idea:
Probably Emma Whitehouse is an aunt of Maria Tonks?
Can you give me the details about the census record in 1871?
Christina

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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 August 05 06:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Christina,

I'm sorry, I've been going round and round on this one, and all I've succeeded in doing is getting myself thoroughly confused.

I found the IGI entry, which is where I presume you got the baptism date, and tried to find a John Tonks marriage with a Mary Ann, with no success. There are virtually no Kettledons of the right era registered for anything!

Yes, on the face of it Emma could be Maria's aunt (nee Kettledon?) since both Maria and William (Emma's son) are said to be grandchildren of old Maria. Maria does seem to be a bit of an orphan, though, and it is possible there is a more complicated relationship than that.

Anyway, here are the (vaguely) relevant entries I have found. Sorry, I've lost the exact addresses - all in Walsall.

1861
Thos Whitehouse   abt 1830    Walsall, Staffordshire, Head, wheelwright
Emma Whitehouse   abt 1838    Walsall, Staffordshire, Wife
William Whitehouse   abt 1860    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son
Maria Kettledon   abt 1802    Brend, Staffordshire, Widow
Thos Kettledon   abt 1840    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son, whip thong maker
Enoch Kettledon   abt 1847    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son
Maria Tonks   abt 1849    Walsall, Staffordshire, Granddaughter [of Maria, I would think]


1871
Maria Kettledon   abt 1801    Brewood, Staffordshire, Head
Enock Kettledon   abt 1848    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son
Thos Kettleton   abt 1840    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son, whip thong maker


Henry Kettledon   abt 1845    Walsall, Staffordshire, Head , whip thong maker
Maryann Kettledon   abt 1845    Walsall, Staffordshire, Wife
Alfred Kettledon   abt 1869    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son
 

1881
Upr Rushall St 5 Carvers Yard, Walsall Borough

Enoch Kettledon   abt 1847    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son
Maria Kettledon   abt 1802    Brewood Nr Wolverhampton, Head
Thomas Kettledon   abt 1839    Walsall, Staffordshire, Son
William Whitehouse   abt 1861    Walsall, Staffordshire, Grandson

Don't think I've been much help in the end!

Ros

 
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Re: Maria Tonks - Walsall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 August 05 06:08 BST (UK) »
Good morning Ros,
you are brilliant!!!
Thank you very much for your efforts in finding a solution. Everything fits together!!

Emma Whitehouse is indeed a daughter to Maria Kettledon. I found her christening - 15.04.1838 Walsall.
So Maria Tonks and William Whitehouse are both grandchildren to Maria Kettledon.
Maria Tonks is not an orphan at all. Her parents John Tonks and Mary Ann Kettledon had
at least 10 children. I don't know why she had lived with her grandmother.

Is it possible for you to give me the details about the family Whitehouse in 1871?
Christina