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search for great grandmothers parents
« on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:15 BST (UK) »
I’m trying to trace the parents of my great grandmother Edith Williment who married Wilson May on 26/9/1892.
I found a B.Cert for Edith 1871 born Norwich and I contacted the GRO to obtain it: Vol 4b, Page 156, Qtr 2 but they have been unable to find it. The marriage certificate shows her father to be Jacob Williment a labourer. The marriage taking place in Newcastle upon Tyne. As I can’t get her B.Cert I don’t know her mother’s name.
The 1861 census shows a Jacob Williment who is a labourer in Norwich with a wife Sophia. Unfortunately Edith is not on this Census as she’s not yet born. I can’t find Jacob Williment on the 1881 and 1891 census and therefore can’t make a link with the Jacob I’ve found.
Anyone with any advice? Thanks in advance.

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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:18 BST (UK) »
There is an Edith Williment, mother's maiden name Cossey, according to GRO Online.

But the reference is Jun qtr 1869 (not 1871), Norwich, 4b 156.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:20 BST (UK) »
What's the source for the date of the birth registration being 1871?  I see that FreeBMD has it also as 1869.  Perhaps this is why the GRO couldn't fulfil your order?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:21 BST (UK) »
I see that Edith May's birthplace per post-marriage census is South Shields or Newcastle c1873, so a Norwich birth in 1869 doesn't look very promising in any event ???
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:23 BST (UK) »
More promising: Edith Eliza Willement, mmn Jary, Sep qtr 1872 Newcastle upon Tyne 10b 104?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:26 BST (UK) »
The one bn Norwich seems to have a father called Gedge (yes, clear on the image)

1871
20 Gladstone Street, Heigham
Gedge Williment 29 booksleers asst
Ann P 30
Ellen 8
Edith 1  all bn Norwich

(ah!  avm is on to something better!)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:28 BST (UK) »
Sorry - removed mistaken post.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:33 BST (UK) »
There’s a Norwich marriage for Jacob Willement and Sophie Jary in 1854; maybe they moved to Newcastle?
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Re: search for great grandmothers parents
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 16:34 BST (UK) »
Possible siblings:

John Saul WILLEMENT, mmn Jary, Mar qtr 1855 Gt Yarmouth (d as John Willement, 5, Q1 1860 Norwich)
Louisa WILLEMENT, mmn Jary, Mar qtr 1857 Norwich
Maria WILLIMENT, mmn Jary, Mar qtr 1860 Norwich (poss d as Maria Willemott, 1, Q3 1861 Norwich)
Elizabeth WILLIMENT, mmn Jary, Jun qtr 1862 Norwich
George WILLIMENT, mmn Jary, Sep qtr 1864 Norwich
Alice WILLIMENT, mmn Jeary, Dec qtr 1866 Norwich
Maria WILLEMENT, mmn Jary, Jun qtr 1870 Norwich
Edith Eliza WILLEMENT, mmn Jary, Sep qtr 1872 Newcastle
Ellen Ruth WILLMENT, mmn Jary, Mar qtr 1875 Newcastle
Meggie WILLEMENT, mmn Jary, Sep qtr 1877 Newcastle
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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