1861 and 1871 Look up Please for 2 Sisters Location???

[Chattykathy]

1861 and 1871  Look up Please for  2 Sisters:


Rebecca (nee King) BARTHAM  b.1836 Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Husband Edward Bartham  (no details) corrected
Dau, Anne Bartham 19 b. 1862 Manchester.
Edward and Rebecca m. 1854 in Heaton Norris (Stockport) Cheshire

Louisa (nee King)  HOWARD  b. 1844 in High Wycombe, Buck
Husband Mr. X Howard --  no details known.
Son, Samuel King Howard, 19, b. 1862 Manchester.
Marriage record not yet found.


In 1881, Both sisters are living with their mother Louisa King, widow, age, 71
At 35 Buxton St. Manningham, Yorkshire. 
Rebecca Bartham  (spelled as “Barttum”) is a widow. 
Louisa, says married but no husband present
They have their respective dau and son living with them.
Rebecca, Louisa & both children all employed at Silk Mill

Thanks so much for any help/information!

Kathy

[CatOne]

1871 RG10/4485 Folio 53 Page 5
39 St Paul Street, Manningham, Yorks
Louisa Howard Head Married 29 Silk Winder Middlesex
Samuel Son 9 Cotton Bobbin Layer?? Lancs Manchester

Regards,
Catherine

[Chattykathy]

Catherine,

Thanks for that info!

Have since found on IGI that Louisa's husband may be Samuel Howard as well  ---  but finding confusion and variance between BMD, and IGI extracted and member submittals  -- so what else is new??

Illusive husband not around for 2 different census reports ---
interesting??

Thanks again!
kathy

[CatOne]

Birth of Samuel King Howard - might give a fathers name -

Samuel King Howard June 1861 Manchester Vol 8d Page 172

I was also looking for the father guessing his name was Samuel and the only one I could come up with was an inmate "imbecile from birth" in a workhouse on the outskirts of Manchester !! (1871 census)

[Chattykathy]

Catherine,  here's what I found for Son Samuel  --

BMD: Samuel King Howard b. June Qtr, 1861 Manchester 

IGI Ext.: Samuel King Howard c. Mar 9, 1862, Cathedral, Manchester

BMD: Samuel King Howard m. June, 1881 in Bradford, W. Riding to either:
           Rachel Longthorn
           Emily Whitely

IGI Member Submittal:  Samuel Henry Howard. b. 1860 Manchester m. Rachel Longthorne May 28, 1881 at St. Peters, Bradford   
Father:  Samuel Howard  Mother:  Louisa

Found Rachel in 1881 Yorkshire census  --  she is 14 yr. old servant in the home of a Reverend

Emily in 1881 in Yorkshire 16 at year old dau of a mill worker

Hoping 1861 census may provide something more definitive??

Thanks again!
kathy

[Chattykathy]

AND,  1881 at 12 Isaac St.  in MANNINGHAM

Samuel Howard 33 b. Bradford  Mechanic at Spinning Mach.
Martha Ann 32   (nee Harrison,  m. 1869 in Bradford)
Noble 10
Tom 8
Samuel 5
Martha 1

cousin, nephew, unrelated ---  lets throw darts!   

kathy

[Chattykathy]

Marriage  ---

Louisa Anne King m. Samuel Howard Mar 11, 1860 Cathedral Manchester


Clears up that bit anyway ---   now what happened to him??

k

[CatOne]

1861 at last!!
RG9/2929 Folio 74 Page 12
Ancoats, Manchester, Lancs
49 Elizabeth Street
Samuel Howard 27 Engineer Yorks Bradford
Louisa 20 Buckingham High Wickham

Regards,
Catherine

[Chattykathy]

Catherine!   Great job!  thanks so much!   

Regards,
kathy