Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell

[louisa maud]

Good find Jennifer c

Wonder where she was on 1901?

Louisa Maud

PS "Celebrity get me out of here " is on otherwise I would have a look now!!!

[jennifer c]

We did find a Marshall born 1885 Camberwell in the end, just not the one we thought.

Jennifer

[louisa maud]

Possible death for Albert Sibbons  1935 Newton Devon

Albert and Rose had at least 2 children, possibly another 2

Louisa Maud

[watsonbrown]

Thanks Jennifer, and Louisa (hope Celebrity Get me out of here was good!!)

I tried looking for Alice again, nothing in 1939, no death between 1915 and 1939 either that I could find...  either I am missing something (quite probable) or she changed her name (not improbable).

I wonder if it's because of the middle names... because I did find Alice Marshalls, but I am dismissing them because they are have different middle names...  I think there was only one mention of her middle name being Alice Mary Ann in a handwritten medical record at a workhouse.. not sure that is reliable.  It does bring a little smirk to my face how one conversation 130+ years ago is causing me to write this today!!

This Devons Road Poplar address is also still a mystery...  I did try checking every household with that address.  Tried and did not succeed

Could someone just vanish without a trace?  Surely brother James would have missed her....

Appreciate you all keep trying, I will take a week or so off so forgive me if I don't reply or acknowledge sooner.  I do appreciate all your help... very much so; thanks a lot.

[avm228]

The middle names are also on Alice’s birth registration - see reply #42.

[watsonbrown]

Sorry avm, you are quite right, and thank you too.  Also in the baptism.

I find it so hard to believe James, Alice and Rose were all abandoned.  Presumably there was no money to bring them up, or perhaps a (very big!) family feud.  It does sound like at least the mother wanted to register them, and carry on her name.  And for three children in quick succession.  The 1880s certainly an eventful time for the Marshalls!

[louisa maud]

I haven't found an Alice that fits, a search of just her Christian names and date of birth on 1939 would be a huge task

As sad as the research has been it was enjoyable and between us we have unearthed family you didn't know existed

Yes, people can disappear without trace, I have one of my own, wife and 2 children died and he just vanished, I can't wait for the 1921 census and hopefully I might find him, you might well find Alice in time, my one who vanished had an unusual surname, only 14 at one time in this country, he didn't go abroad either, 

Watson brown , you also did a lot of research yourself which I found very helpful, I was very impressed if you don't mind my saying

Good luck in your future research

Louisa Maud
PS, I don't think you will find Alice on the electoral registers before about 1920 if my memory serves me correctly, please correct me if I am wrong, Mrs Pankhurst and her friends if you remember, but as always I stand to be corrected

[louisa maud]

One thing  that comes to mind again, why didn't Alice sign as a witness to the marriage in 1920, that makes me think she might have died before then, after all he did put her down as next of kin so they must have been close

Louisa Maud

H Grier, wonder if it is Harry John Grier listed with Rosina at 40 Woodfield Place, Paddington, just a thought?

[watsonbrown]

According to online tree Rose died Eastbourne 1961

Jennifer

I found a potential Alice match in the 1901 census as a servant:
Sussex > Eastbourne > District 08 > Schedule 110
Piece 880 Folio 39 Page number 22
Heads are Joseph and Fanny Willmott of 9 Wellington Square.

Perhaps Alice and Rose moved to Eastbourne together, and she wasn't a witness of the 1920 wedding because of distance...


Thoughts??  I really cannot find much else!