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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #81 on: Sunday 02 December 18 19:30 GMT (UK) »
I did find this, I have no idea if it is your Alice Marshall
dated admitted 29/11/1919
St Johns Road Workhouse Islington register
Alice M Marshall aged 35

Weekly Admissions, image here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1R-Q8MV?i=747&cat=1224679

Says she was single.

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #82 on: Sunday 02 December 18 19:33 GMT (UK) »
It's not her.
An earlier admission, 24 May 1919
Alice Maud Marshall
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1R-QZZ5?i=474&cat=1224679

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #83 on: Sunday 02 December 18 19:42 GMT (UK) »
Oh, blow!!!!!

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 02 December 18 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Could be just as well! Because she was to be in Hagar Ward. Which was for female lunatics, or certainly had been at one time.
I've come across two (distant) male rellies who had spells in Islington's Ishmael Ward. One seems to have gone berserk with a policeman, but he apparently quickly returned to his senses.
The other disappeared for ever into asylums.
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 02 December 18 21:32 GMT (UK) »

or St Andrews Hospital!
Says renamed in 1920.
https://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/standrewsbow.html


Thanks Jon, it is somehow slightly comforting he died in a relatively 'modern' hospital rather than an asylum.  For what it's worth, despite being abandoned as a child he seems to have found stable work, lived steadily for at least 9 years, joined the army, and then had 6 years of marriage with Sarah.  Despite the circumstances, seems he was of sound mind.  Alice, not so...?  Yet he put her as next of kin... but maybe because he had noone else?

All, appreciate the continue efforts to find Alice!
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #86 on: Monday 03 December 18 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Still looking out for Alice Mary Ann Marshall, bearing in mind from baptismal records we know here ate of birth
On Ancestry family trees there is a very interesting entry, using baptism records for this child but completely different research to what we have been searching for, hopefully one the postees would like to have a look including watsonbrown, what do you all think?

Louisa Maud

Just thought it was worth listing why that baptism cannot belong to the De Zouche Marshall family.

1.  John James de Zouche Marshall is a Surgeon NOT James a labourer
2. Other children apparently baptised Lamberhurst.  Why would you suddenly have one baptised in London.
3. Marriages of other children take place during decade pre ww1. 1901, 1904 & 1910.  Father is a witness  at all. And signs as John J De Z. Marshall.  Ie known as John.
4. From 3, If Alice Was a de Zouche Marshall one would expect her to either be very obvious or dead.

I am sure there are other reasons, but that seems enough

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #87 on: Monday 03 December 18 09:41 GMT (UK) »
No, in my opinion they are not connected but that is what is showing

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

I have really enjoyed watching this thread develop and all the great finds along the way.

With Alice still outstanding, wondering it this could be her in 1901:

Alice M Marshall 18 housemaid b. Hammersmith
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJH-7L4

Monica  :)

ADDED: Watsonbrown, you have this entry already I see. Post getting long!

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