Still looking out for Alice Mary Ann Marshall, bearing in mind from baptismal records we know here ate of birth
On Ancestry family trees there is a very interesting entry, using baptism records for this child but completely different research to what we have been searching for, hopefully one the postees would like to have a look including watsonbrown, what do you all think?
Louisa Maud
Hi Louisa, I don't follow, what did you find on Ancestry? I do question everything I find on Ancestry, many users do tend to link the first thing Ancestry hints and that can make for some crazy assumptions!
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In other news, I received James Marshall's death certificate this weekend. It confirms the informant a Sarah Marshall and their Malmesbury Road Bow Address, so definitely the same James. The date : December 1926. Location of death given as 73A Devons Road.
I thought aha! An address! I must find out who lived there! I been searching the 1911 Census to see who lived at that address 73A Devons Road Poplar, in case any Marshalls were there at that time! I found plenty of the address Devons Road, firstly, all the even numbers, lovely. Then I realised they were just even numbers... no odd numbers anywhere. Deep breath, try again. Found a random entry for an odd numbered Devons Road address, and flipped a few pages from there. All looked good, 83, 81, 79, 77, 75.... then suddenly another road! I couldn't believe it!
I had found out that 73 Devons Road (not 73A) was actually the address of an old pub:
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Bromley/DukeEdinburgh.shtmlAha! Lets find that on the 1911 census, surely 73A would be the next entry.... oh but no, it would be the very first entry of the 3rd District... Obviously it was right on the border. Checked the last of the previous district and the next district... oh the frustration.
Long story short, couldn't find 73A Devons Road Poplar in the 1911 Census.
Searching the internet generally, I discovered that this address was actually a hospital/asylum:
https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/13806-Poplar-amp-Stepney-Sick-AsylumIndeed, a few internet searches told me many died at 73A Devons Road, it is not a residential address.
So I can confirm James definitely died 1926, but none the wiser about Alice. I must say, I am happy we solved the James mystery, and thank you and all for that. Very glad, however we have a new mystery that is whatever happened to his sister, Alice. I do believe she existed, and is the brother of James with James Snr. and Mary Ann as the parents, given the scholar, birth and baptism records.
I do suspect she died, unmarried and childless, between 1915 and 1920, in the asylum, but would be good to show that. I wonder, that if in 1914/5 when James was registered in the army, it did actually refer to the asylum, given he had noone else being abandoned by his parents...
Anyone any ideas on possible routes I could go down from here to close this one off?
