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Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« on: Monday 18 March 19 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Hello

This is my first visit to the Irish section of the boards, please forgive me for my inexperience.

I am researching the tree of a friend and his great grandmother was ELLEN YOUNG, who married in the UK in 1863 and lived there till her death in 1912.

She married Richard William Dad(e)y (1841 City of London) in St Thomas' Church, Stepney, which was CofE, and I assume this confirms she was not Catholic.

Her father is shown as THOMAS YOUNG, deceased, with no occupation shown.

In various censuses she says that she was born in Cork, Ireland.  I cannot find her, or her father, in London or elsewhere in the UK ahead of her marriage in 1863.

I am completely inexperienced with Irish research, and gather that Catholic records are more easily found?

Is there any advice you can give me to help me move further back in this line?

Thank you
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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 March 19 22:58 GMT (UK) »
There are baptisms for several Ellen Youngs with father named Thomas in these Cork R.C. records but no way to tell if any might be the one you are looking for-
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/
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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 11:47 GMT (UK) »
There are baptisms for several Ellen Youngs with father named Thomas in these Cork R.C. records but no way to tell if any might be the one you are looking for-
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

Thank you, Aghadowey, much appreciated.
I have found a possible 1835 baptism for Ellen Young, with father Tom Young, and mother Catherine Keady, at Dromagurtnine, but of course no certainty at all that this is the right one...

I wonder whether the person whose tree this is, has any possibility of finding out from his mother (in her 90's) whether there is any legend in the family about her Irish grandmother (who died 10 years before she was born) regarding where in Ireland she came, and if she was originally Catholic, although she married in a CofE church in London.

Otherwise..... :( >:(
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Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
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Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 11:53 GMT (UK) »


You have found a possible 1835 baptism for Ellen Young, with father Tom Young, and mother Catherine Keady, at Dromagurtnine, but of course no certainty at all that this is the right one...


So have you looked for a Marriage about 20 yrs later for the one you found?  If you find that one Marrying you can eliminate her!


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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, good thought.  I will look again....
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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 12:35 GMT (UK) »
I am researching the tree of a friend and his great grandmother was ELLEN YOUNG, who married in the UK in 1863 and lived there till her death in 1912.

Died in the Mile End Union Infirmary, 27 Feb 1912. Age 71
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1T-2S2C-6?i=63&cat=1249964

To be buried Leyton
Age 70 in 1911 in the WH
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPC-CJX

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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Do they mean St Patrick's Roman Catholic Cemetery?
Workhouse admissions say she was RC.

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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 13:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that is the correct death - I have been looking on Ancestry and FindMyPast and hadn't got to FamilySearch so very many thanks indeed for these.

I'd not seen the "deaths in the infirmary" document, which shows the cause of death - looks like a stroke.
She was shown on the 1901 Census as 'paralysed' so I had previously theorised she'd suffered a stroke earlier.

I can't see the workhouse admissions showing her as RC as yet, but will have another look.

Thank you, all clues here very much welcomed
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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Re: Ellen Young, daughter of Thomas Young, born c 1839 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 13:16 GMT (UK) »

To be buried Leyton
Age 70 in 1911 in the WH
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPC-CJX

I see what you mean - I'd not picked up on that (despite coming from Leytonstone myself!) - as the Leyton cemetery would imply St Patrick's Catholic Cemetery.

Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex