John Brown B 1831 Woolwich. Looking for a marriage to Elizabeth 1861-ish

[PaulineJ]

BROWN, JANE       QUANTICK  1862  D Quarter in GUISBROUGH  Volume 09D  Page 427
BROWN, JOHN  ARTHUR     QUANTICK  1864  M Quarter in GUISBROUGH  Volume 09D  Page 450
BROWN, CHARLES       QUANTICK  1866  S Quarter in GUISBOROUGH  Volume 09D  Page 431
BROWN, HENRY       QUANTICK  1868  S Quarter in GUISBROUGH  Volume 09D  Page 462
BROWN, ELIZABETH       QUANTICK  1870  S Quarter in GUISBROUGH  Volume 09D  Page 461

I think this is the chap in 1891:
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1891&indiv=try&h=1254262
& John Arthur in '81 (Dad is awol)
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=26526711
& Head of house in '71
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1871&indiv=try&h=28685591

Elizabeth (nee Quantick) b Devon.
Just Can't find a suitable marriage, and bug-eyed from trying).

IF this john brown is "mine", Parents are David Brown (a Painter) and Ann (nee Morris).
Without that marriage, there's no way of proving a connection.

Thanks, Pauline

[LizzieL]

Looks like John Brown senior is in prison in Yorkshire in 1881
Piece:4870 Folio:64 Page Number:22

If Elizabeth was a widow she would have married John in her late husband's surname but her actual maiden name would be on children's birth cert. Is that a possibility?

[CaroleW]

Same thought here about it being a second marriage for Elizabeth

In 1871 Elizabeth is 45 and eldest child is 8

[PaulineJ]

Already been down the widow route.

Got nowhere tracing the possibles

[LizzieL]

But there was an Elizabeth Quantick baptised on 26 Mar 1826 at Mamhead, Devon d/ o Thomas and Eleanor. Could be her

[PaulineJ]

That one isn't with her father in 1841,
Cant find her in any other census either.

[LizzieL]

Possibility in 1841

Piece 265 Book 25 Folio  12 Page 19

[CaroleW]

Logically she should be found in 1861 but I can't find an Eliz** b Ashcombe or just Devon matching her profile

[LizzieL]

Perhaps they couldn't marry because John was already married.