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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 01:23 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: chempat on Monday 25 November 19 21:45 GMT (UK)
1891 census living in Kilwinning
Jane Cameron   50  nurse  Stevenston
Ann Cameron   16  Glasgow
Archibald Cameron   13  Glasgow
Janet Cameron   9  Stevenson


 Just to say a huge thank you for the info on John Cameron children Especially the two born in America I never thought I would find out when they were born. I had found the family in a Census before any of the 2 children were born they only had Elizabeth at this time. They had a son John who died and then they went to America  had two and came back to Glasgow ad then Ayrshire. I have some info on them but could not find anything on John Weir Cameron even though I has the parents names wither he ran away and joined the Merchant Navy I couldn't say or even if the parents are real people. I have no family to ask about them as the only one who may have known anything developed Dementia before I started looking into the family. Well again thank you very much for the info I shall add it to the tree. I would be grateful if at anytime you come across anymore info you would keep me in mind. Thank you again.

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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 07:47 GMT (UK) »
You have put this
'He died in Cleveland Ohio USA in 1881 aged 54. '
This would mean that he did not come back with his family, surely.
Why would he be in Ohio, when the births of his children were in New York?

If he was lost at sea, some time between 1881 and 1891 census, and the death was recorded under the name John Cameron, or if the body was not found...

Could you say who were his parents on his marriage certificate, his mother's maiden name, etc etc?

What is the extra information when he 'ran away and joined the merchant navy'?  Why should his parents be invented?

We would like this information to help us to find the family.

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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 07:53 GMT (UK) »
Please can you give details of the census in which you found them in New York - presumably in 1870?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 13:09 GMT (UK) »
United States Census 1870
Jane Cameron
Female
27 years old
White
Birth 1842 - 1843
Scotland
Household
Catherine Duffy   35   Ireland
Richard Duffy.       6.   Ireland
Kate Duffy.             5   Ireland
John Cameron.      34.    Scotland
Jane Cameron.       27.   Scotland
Elizabeth Cameron. 3.    Scotland

Also foubd this in my notes a census record from 1841
John Cameron. 15.   Inverness shire. Originally Argyllshire
Sarah Cameron   50  Inverness shire
Mary Cameron     90. Invernessshire

Place   Ardnamurchan  Argyllshire
Address. Ardsliguish
This may be his mother and grandmother I found this while looking for the Census record of  1870 in America and I haven't looked in this book for a long while. This may be the reason he left and went to sea. If his father was dead and he was left to carry on the farm as it said he was an Ag Lab.

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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 13:22 GMT (UK) »
That 1870 census gives his age as 34, so born in 1835/1836, which fits with his age of 28 at marriage in 1864.
(Ancestry has them transcribed as Canaeron)

It does not fit with that 1841 census, unfortunately.

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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Does he actually name himself as John Weir Cameron on that marriage certificate, or anywhere else, or is he John Cameron, and his mother's maiden name was Weir but is not used by John?

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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 15:51 GMT (UK) »
An outside bet.
There are 56 references for seamen with the name John Cameron in the online 1881 Crew Agreements database.
https://www.mun.ca/mha/1881/crews1881.php
Be aware that merchant seamen regularly lied about their age.
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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 16:49 GMT (UK) »
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Does he actually name himself as John Weir Cameron on that marriage certificate, or anywhere else, or is he John Cameron, and his mother's maiden name was Weir but is not used by John?

Haven't looked at it for a while so got the certificate out and read it and no he doesn't actually name himself as John Weir Cameron but John Cameron. But I have seen it written as John Weir Cameron but if he used it himself I don't know.

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Re: Re John Weir Cameron
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 17:24 GMT (UK) »
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Haven't looked at it for a while so got the certificate out and read it and no he doesn't actually name himself as John Weir Cameron but John Cameron. But I have seen it written as John Weir Cameron but if he used it himself I don't know.

Where have you seen it written as John Weir Cameron?

Have you managed to find a marriage between Sarah Weir and Archibald Cameron?
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