1861 Crossley St Warrington

[CarpeDiem]

Hi

I originally asked for a look up BUT I now have a conundrum .  Catherine Bate (Nee Harrison) died Crossley Street (no number) January 1861 - I cannot find her Husband Thomas or her 2 older sons Henry and Thomas anywhere on the census.  The youngest child Peter is with his grandparents on Pinners Brow.  However on Crossley Street is a Thomas Whittaker - widower, right age, occupation and place of birth - with 3 sons all right names and ages  Henry, Thomas and Peter BUT why on earth is the name Whittaker - any ideas ?

[Ladyhawk]

Can you give date & places of birth of her husband and sons, plus Thomas' occupation.

There's this Bate family

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
12, Crossley Street, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire
Ellen   Bate   Head   Widow      1802   Laundress   Wales
William T   Bate   Grandson      1859   Warrington, Lancashire

EDIT - reference number RG09 Piece number   2793 Folio   87 Page   16

[Ladyhawk]

Any relation to your Bate family?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Crossley Street, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire

Richard   Bate   Head      1834   Railway Bricks Man   Appleton, Cheshire
Ann   Bate   Wife               1837   Fustian Cutter   Warrington, Lancashire

[stanmapstone]

Duplicate post https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=822369.new#new
Stan

[Ladyhawk]

For anyone else looking here's the 1861 census with surname WHITTAKER - certainly appears to be same family

Piece:   2793 Folio:   89 Page Number:   20
4 B.K Crossley Street
Thomas Whittaker   46 Widow Fustion Cutter
Henry Whittaker   10
Thomas Whittaker   8
Peter Whittaker   5
all born Warrington

[stanmapstone]

The GRO index has no Henry Whittaker registered  1850 +/- 2years, but there are two Henry Bate, mother Harrison
BATE, HENRY       HARRISON 
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 20  Page 888
BATE, HENRY       HARRISON 
GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 20  Page 996

Stan

[Ladyhawk]

for info. 1871 census Piece:   3907 Folio:   55 Page Number:   12
Pinners Brow
Henry Harrison   63
Elizabeth Harrison   63
James Harrison   29
Ann Harrison   18
Alice Alford   31 Dau
William Alford   1 Grandson
Henry Bate   19 grandson
Peter Bate   15 grandson

EDIT

on 1881 census at 56 Pinners Brow
Peter  is dittoed as nephew of Henry & Elizabeth   

Piece:   3797 Folio:   92 Page Number:   12

Henry Harrison   73
Elizabeth Harrison   73
Alice Leigh   66
Joseph Orford   46
William Orford   11
Peter Bate   25 Warrington
Alice Golding   21

[Ladyhawk]

Is this father Thomas' death entry?

Thomas BATE age 52
Death quarter   2
Death year   1867 Warrington Lancashire   Volume   8C Page   118

[CarpeDiem]

Thank you all so much for your responses - really appreciated - Carrol