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Berty John Bullas mother's name
« on: Friday 31 January 20 14:36 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if anyone could locate the name of Berty's mum.
I have searched GRO but it isn't listed,

Berty John Bullas birth registered Dec qtr 1885 Oundle RD
Volume 3b Page 223

He is living in the Union Workhouse with "Aunt" Phoebe Bullas and her daughter Lily. Phoebe had one sister Lizzie (born Bullas) but she seems to have taken her step father's surname Lakey in the 1881 census. I am wondering if he is Phoebe's son rather than nephew.

Many thanks Andrea

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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 January 20 14:48 GMT (UK) »
BULLAS, BERTY  JOHN     - 
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in OUNDLE  Volume 03B  Page 223

the 'dash' in the space for the Mother's maiden name means that Berty was illegitimate, and therefore his mother's name was Bullas

The birth certificate itself would name his mother
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 January 20 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: IgorStrav on Friday 31 January 20 14:48 GMT (UK)
BULLAS, BERTY  JOHN     - 
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in OUNDLE  Volume 03B  Page 223

the 'dash' in the space for the Mother's maiden name means that Berty was illegitimate, and therefore his mother's name was Bullas

The birth certificate itself would name his mother

Thank you.
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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 January 20 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi.

There is a birth in Oundle Workhouse for a George  son of Phoebe Bullas from Benefield (Oundle Reg Dist) born on Jan 17th 1889, baptised Jan 20th 1889. In another column it says 3rd illegitimate.

No mention of Berty in the Workhouse.

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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 January 20 16:11 GMT (UK) »
George may have died in the Mar Qtr of 1889 in the Oundle Reg Dist.

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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 January 20 16:24 GMT (UK) »
It is George as he died in the workhouse on the Jan 29th aged 12 days of Benefield.

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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 January 20 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Sandy Hall on Friday 31 January 20 16:10 GMT (UK)
Hi.

There is a birth in Oundle Workhouse for a George  son of Phoebe Bullas from Benefield (Oundle Reg Dist) born on Jan 17th 1889, baptised Jan 20th 1889. In another column it says 3rd illegitimate.

No mention of Berty in the Workhouse.

Sandy

Thanks Sandy, Berty is recorded as John Bertrum Bullas (the line under Phoebe) in the workhouse, he is down as nephew.
Thank you for finding George, he is a surprise.

Andrea.
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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 January 20 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrea. I was looking at the original images of the Oundle workhouse births 1877 upwards
and I could only find George noted.

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Re: Berty John Bullas mother's name
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 January 20 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Sandy Hall on Friday 31 January 20 16:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Andrea. I was looking at the original images of the Oundle workhouse births 1877 upwards
and I could only find George noted.

Sandy

Thank you for looking, Phoebe's mum died in 1886 so I think it all went pear shaped after that. Berty was born in 1885 and Lillie 1888. Can I ask where you found the workhouse records, I am looking for a death for Lavender Lakey ( 1886 - 1891) and I was wondering if it would be recorded in their records as I can't find a death registered at all.

Andrea
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