Author Topic: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+  (Read 5190 times)

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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #36 on: Friday 17 November 23 04:14 GMT (UK) »
Looks like David Stewart was a milner in Dailly and married a Mary wilson. At the time they lived at Drumburle which i'm sure isn't too far from Cookiestoun.

Drumburle is close to Aird Bridge.
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #37 on: Friday 17 November 23 09:28 GMT (UK) »
I have sent you an email with a document I wrote about the Stewarts of Drumburle and Cookieston.

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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #38 on: Friday 17 November 23 09:30 GMT (UK) »
... she was in the right place at the right time. The only Agnes Crawford I could find born in Maybole parish. Then I think I reaffirmed it by checking peoples trees on ancestry.
A thoroughly bad idea.

First, just because someone is the obvious, or even the only, candidate does not mean that they are the correct person. There are so many people missing from the records that it is never safe to assume the one in the records is the one you want.

Second, never trust anything you find on Ancestry or any other commercial web sites (other than an image of an original document, though even those can contain errors), and especially not trees submitted by other people. For all you know, someone else may have made an unsafe assumption, and all the dozens of others with the same (wrong) information have just copied the error.

You are doing the right thing by trying to research more thoroughly.

Have you looked at the originals of all the baptism records to see if the witnesses are named, and if so whether they give any clues?
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #39 on: Friday 17 November 23 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Not sure he is any kind of relative of mine. Hope not , as he and Sarah Stewart would be kissing-distant-cousins if that was the case.

I believe they did more that just kiss  ;D


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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #40 on: Friday 17 November 23 18:07 GMT (UK) »
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Have you looked at the originals of all the baptism records to see if the witnesses are named, and if so whether they give any clues?
Yes, my credit card has been busy ... I have all the records I could buy and then some. Nothing really jumps out yet though.

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STEWART
   
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JOHN STEWART/AGNES MCRINKIN FR135 (FR135)
   
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07/12/1740
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Maybole

There was an Agnes Mccrinkine is born in Maybole 29/03/1724. She'd be about 16 for that first birth in 1740 where there don't list the child's name. I don't see a death for her but many records are missing. Unless there were two John Stewarts in wee Corra Miln , I think he at least had 2 kids with McKrinkine and then had at least 2 with Agnes Paton who was 2 years older I believe, born 14/01/1722 and so 25 for first kid listed.

Just now I found the wedding doc for John Stewart and Agnes Paton in 1746. It doesn't say a variation of Corra Miln but the place it does say i suspect is close by. I attached the doc...

Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #41 on: Friday 17 November 23 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Are those places not Alloway Mill and Bridgend of Ayr?
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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #42 on: Friday 17 November 23 18:31 GMT (UK) »
I had a "what would Forfarian do?" moment ...

Went back and closely inspected the documents.

The John Stewart that had kids with Agnes McConnell at Carslow 1738 is the same as the one having a kid with agnes McKrinle in 1743. Upon review both say Carslow Miln and more importantly they say "spouse of". They were married.

That leaves one birth for John Stewart at Corra Miln and Agnes Mckrinkine ... 07/12/1740. The one with no name that a great many ancestry folk have in their trees as Quintin Stewart. As I mentioned earlier ancestries AI sees it and recommends it as Agnes McLinteen instead of Agnes McKrinkine. We all know about no-proof copy-trees...

Anyhow looking at the 1740 nameless birth I noticed they were not married. *snip attached*

So now I am leaning towards thinking there are two John Stewarts. One marries Agnes McConnell in Carslow. The other has a child with Agnes McKrinkine at Corra Miln out of wedlock and then has at least two kids with Agnes Paton whom he married in 1746.





Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #43 on: Friday 17 November 23 18:35 GMT (UK) »
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Are those places not Alloway and Bridgend?

I'm going to have to get on the maps and check and see.

I do know that they were in Corra Miln having a child named Hugh the next year. Same name as the senior Stewart having a son John at Corra Miln in 1722.

It appears that Alloway is just outside of Ayr. About 6 miles from Maybole.
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Quintin Stewart - Tailor of Maybole- Searching for birth info+
« Reply #44 on: Friday 17 November 23 18:49 GMT (UK) »
One last thing  ...  ;D

One of the earliest Quintins I see having chlidren in Maybole is a name I keep seeing while searching Quintin Spear/Spier. He has kids with an Isabella McDowell starting about 1709. As a bonus the kids names are:

Sarah
John
David
Quintine
Janet
Mary

Those names together seem familiar!

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I have sent you an email with a document I wrote about the Stewarts of Drumburle and Cookieston.

Thanks!
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.