John Cole baptism

[Sonia Gardener]

Good morning all
I am trying to find the baptism for a John Cole born 1842 Cowhill Glos.  On his marriage to Ann Weeks 1865 he gives his father as Joel.  His baptism does not appear on Familysearch or freereg and I am unable to pin him down on a census pre-marriage. 
I would be grateful if anyone could help please
Many thanks

[PaulineJ]

Where was he wed, and what occupations are given.
Also what names witness?

Pauline

[BumbleB]

Address on the marriage entry is Hengrove House, Brislington. 

St Mary, Redcliffe - 23 May 1865 by Licence

John Cole, full, bachelor, Farmer.  Father:  Joel, deceased
Ann Weeks, full, spinster.  Father:  John, deceased

Witnesses:  John and Elizabeth Weeks.

[trish1120]

Birth Regs;

COLE, JOHN Mothers mn BOW 
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in THORNBURY UNION  Volume 11  Page 437

COLE, JOHN  HOLDER mmn HOLDER 
GRO Reference: 1841  M Quarter in THORNBURY UNION  Volume 11  Page 472

Difficult one as John 1842 has likely Parents as ISAAC/CHARLOTTE nee Bow

Trish

[Sonia Gardener]

Thank you for your replies.
I did not have the information of address Hengrove House on the marriage record I was looking at nor that his occupation was farmer.  In 1871 & 1881 he is an ag. lab.  There are Coles in Hengrove earlier but not my John as far as I can see.

Yes I'm having the same difficulty as you hence why I have not sent off for the birth cert. to determine parentage.

[BumbleB]

Apologies for this - where have you seen John's birthplace as Cowhill, Gloucestershire?

I am assuming that it is the 1871 census return - RG10/2587 folio 53 page 2

John - 29 - Ag Lab
Ann - 28
Harriett - 6
Ellen - 4
Frank - 2

I've looked at the birth registrations for Harriett, Ellen and (William) Frank in the Thornbury Registration District - mother's maiden name for Harriett is Monday and Ellen is Mundy.  And there is a marriage entry, in Thornbury RD in 1863 where John Cole and Ann Mundy appear on the same page.

26 September 1863 - Thornbury
John Coles - 21, bachelor, Labourer.  Father:  Charles, Labourer
Ann Mundy - 21, spinster.  Father:  George, Labourer
Witnesses:  George and Emma Mundy

Added:  Frank's birth registration is also with mmn = Mundy, and there is a James Alfred born 1871.

[BumbleB]

Hardwicke - 1842

John Cole, born 8 December 1841, baptised 9 January 1842 - son of Charles (Labourer) and Margaret of Hardwicke.

[Sonia Gardener]

Thank you so much Bumble - I felt all along something wasn't right but just couldn't work it out myself.  Now I feel I'm back on the right track. (hopefully)

[MaureeninNY]

Well done,BB!!

Maureen