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Looking for mother William Sandford
« on: Thursday 03 December 20 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am looking for mother of William Sandford born c1828/29 Newcastle Under Lyme Staffordshire. His father was John Sandford c1811 Ireland. Baptised 09/11/1828 Newcastle Under Lyme. I have not viewed baptism record.
Any help appreciated.
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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 December 20 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Where do you have him in 1841, please give details
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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 December 20 16:58 GMT (UK) »
William Sandford
Christening Date:   9 Nov 1828
Christening Place:   Newcastle-under-Lyne, Staffordshire, England
Father:   John Sandford
Mother:   Eliza Sandford

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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 December 20 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Also Alice 28/11/1824 Hanley, Staffs & Robert 23 Mar 1834 Newcastle Under Lyme.

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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 December 20 17:11 GMT (UK) »
marriage on Ancestry for John Sandford
Marriage Date:   28 Dec 1823
Marriage Place:   Stoke Upon Trent,Stafford
Spouse:   Eliza Chulliner

Also on freereg with detail that John was a Cheesemonger, Richard SANDFORD & Martha CHALLINER, witnesses.

One tree on Ancestry has this marriage but only child Alice, so given if John was born 1811, not the father of William?

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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 December 20 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Where do you have him in 1841, please give details
1841 Census.
William Sandford age 12 est birth date abt 1829.
Where born Staffordshire England Civil Parish Newcastle Under Lyme
Hundred: North Pirehill County Staffordshire.
Piece 1009 Book 5 Folio: 29. Page 1
John Sanford 30 /Elizabeth Sanford 30/
Elizabeth Sanford 14/William  Sanford 12.
 

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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 December 20 14:26 GMT (UK) »
marriage on Ancestry for John Sandford
Marriage Date:   28 Dec 1823
Marriage Place:   Stoke Upon Trent,Stafford
Spouse:   Eliza Chulliner

Also on freereg with detail that John was a Cheesemonger, Richard SANDFORD & Martha CHALLINER, witnesses.

One tree on Ancestry has this marriage but only child Alice, so given if John was born 1811, not the father of William?

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Can not understand reason why ??
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SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 December 20 15:26 GMT (UK) »
So marriage 1823 - John's occupation is Cheesemonger

Alice's baptisms - 1824 - cannot see an occupation (different record set)

William's baptism - 1828 - John is a Gardiner (sic)

Robert's baptism - 1834 - John is a Traveller

1841 census - Commercial traveller

Images for marriage plus William, Robert and 1841 are on FindMyPast.

Can't see anything for Elizabeth (14 in 1841)



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Re: Looking for mother William Sandford
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 December 20 16:21 GMT (UK) »
So marriage 1823 - John's occupation is Cheesemonger

Alice's baptisms - 1824 - cannot see an occupation (different record set)

William's baptism - 1828 - John is a Gardiner (sic)

Robert's baptism - 1834 - John is a Traveller

1841 census - Commercial traveller

Images for marriage plus William, Robert and 1841 are on FindMyPast.

Can't see anything for Elizabeth (14 in 1841)
It later years my ancestor John Sandford c1811 born Ireland occupation listed as Gardener & Traveller. ? Cheesemonger ?? could be a seller of cheese as he travelled.
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



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FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE