Bristol Parish Records Lookup - John Churchill (DOB 1815)

[djm297]

William Churchill marries Margaret Joyce at Walcot-near Bath- 24 Dec 1801.

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[Ladyhawk]

William Churchill marries Margaret Joyce at Walcot-near Bath- 24 Dec 1801.

djm297

That's interesting djm297

Not found baptism for John Churchill born c 1814 father William, Butcher 

Baptism    9 Sep 1804 St Philip and Jacob, Gloucestershire
Register Type:   Parish Register
Samuel-Joyce (8w), William & Margaret Churchill (butcher), Barton


Charles baptism age 2, father William Churchill, butcher , Margaret
Baptism 1 Apr 1804 St Philip and Jacob, Gloucestershire

EDIT to add

this appears to be Samuel's son marriage

Charles Churchill Age:   68, widower butcher
Marriage 18 Nov 1901 All Hallows, Tottenham, Haringey, England
Father:   Samuel Joyce Churchill, valet, deceased
Spouse:   Emma Louisa Griffith

and Samuel & son on 1851 census HO107; Piece: 1496; Folio: 876; Page: 19

Samuel Churchill 47 Bristol Labourer (roads)
Eliza 42
Mary A 21 Gen Serv
Chas 17 Butcher’s ap
Eliza 13
Jane 9
Amelia 8
Margaret 2

Samuel Joyce Churchill
Marriage 3 Mar 1829 St Marylebone, Westminster
Spouse:   Eliza Jane Graves
married in the  presence of Wm P? Churchill & Margaret Braddon

[Capetown]

The marriage of John BRADDON at Saint Pancras 2 April 1829 was by Licence (which could give more information)

the witnesses were

Saml CHURCHILL and Margarett CHURCHILL

Children christened at St Marylebone, Westminster

Amelia Elizth BRADDON - 14 August 1825
Margaretta Elford BRADDON - 8 November 1829
Adelaide BRADDON - 17 July 1831
Ellen Angell BRADDON - 1 Jan 1835
Victoria Oldrey BRADDON - 21 May 1837

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Freereg

Has the marriage of Margaret JOYCE, Spinster- at Walcot St Swithin - 24 December 1801 (there are other JOYCE's listed) 

to

William CHURCHILL - Bachelor -

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Ancestry : copy marriage at Walcot St Swithin,  both William CHURCHILL and Maggret JOYCE - sign their names : witnesses: Joseph WITTON and James HOWE

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Ancestry

Baptism at Westminster St James, Piccadilly 4 April 1807

Margaretta CHURCHILL - parents: Willm CHURCHILL and Margaretta


Baptism at Gloucestershire, St Philip and Jacob

1804

9 September

Samuel JOYCE (8 weeks) of William & Margaret CHURCHILL (Butcher) Barton Street.

Charles (christened 2 years) previous reply - address again was Barton Street.

[SarahChurchill13]

WOW! Thanks Everyone!

There's a ton of info here. It certainly looks like William Churchill and Margaret Joyce could be the right parents, since he's a butcher. Still don't understand the lack of records for John Churchill or Alfred Churchill though if that's the case.

We definitely have the right John Churchill (m. Elizabeth Jarman) as he did have a daughter named Alexina, and fortunately that made it easy to find the census records as the name is unique (finally someone NOT named John!  )

The marriage info for John Braddon and Margaretta Churchill is certainly promising, and the marriage date of 1829 would certainly fit with her being an older sibling of John Churchill, with the witness Samuel being another brother (presumably Samuel Joyce Churchill DOB 1804).

I think it's definitely possible this is the right family, but I'd like to find records for Alfred Churchill (DOB between 1800-1825 probably) or John Churchill that can connect them to William Churchill and Margaret Joyce beyond John and Elizabeth's son being named Alfred Bradden/Braddon.

I'll keep looking and following some of the lateral threads to see if they lead back anywhere concrete!

Thank you again everyone!

[Ladyhawk]

Capetown thank you for confirming address is Barton Street already posted details of Samuel & Charles baptism reply 10 and Jonw65 had posted some details of Braddon's at reply  6

Sarahchurchill13 - glad we could be of help 

[Capetown]

Father's occupation's do change - especially if they are 'out of work' of sometimes went bankrupt!

My x Grandfather was a Miller, went bankrupt and later became a labourer, and left the County!


just to refresh

John CHURCHILL, 17 January 1813, St Philip & St Jacob

Parents: William & Margaretta CHURCHILL - residence: West Street, occupation: Gardner

and again same church

Elizabeth CHURCHILL, 2 June 1826, William & Margaret CHURCHILL, residence: St Phillips, occupation: Gardiner

[SarahChurchill13]

CapetownThanks - I think it's certainly possible, though I'm surprised we have him listed in family documents as a butcher if he spent relatively little time as a butcher compared to the time spent as a gardener. Maybe he butchered the plants!  I'm still confused as to the total absence of Alfred though considering! I have asked my great Aunt to double check what little information she may have in the family bible (assuming she can find and read it) just in case there is something useful hiding there.

I will also have a look at the census records for William Churchill again and see if I can find anything that may be him based on the occupation of Gardener now. I know the dates aren't likely in my favour but I can give it a try!

[Ladyhawk]

Do you know where and when William Churchill died?

[Capetown]

My x Ancestor - previous a Miller, then a labourer......  on his death certificate, the Son wrote his father's occupation as : Farmer.

Family pride.....